Is my test infected?

[garythompson]

I have test enanthate and prop.
day 1 injected both in quad same time. was sore the next day and the day after that it was sore even more and a small swollen spot that felt a little warmer than the other leg.
day 3 I inject just prop into my other quad. it becomes sore but not as much. day 4 I inject just enanthate into my shoulder. it gets very sore the next day and swollen.
day 5 i inject just prop into my leg. by the end of the night I feel warm and run down.
day 6 (today) no injections scheduled. My shoulder hurts bad to touch and use muscle, is warm and redish. My leg hurts about like it did when I did both esters in the same shot in it the first time even though this time is was just prop and not both.

My question is, could my enanthate be contaminated? or is it possibly just how I injected or something, because I didn't get red and pain for this long when injecting it in my leg with prop but just in my shoulder when it's the only ester I injected?

I'm using test prop 100mg/ml and test enan 300mg/ml. If you want to know the brand of gear PM me. I heard they had a bad batch a while back but that was supposed to be gone by now.

[ScotchGuard]

Check your core temp with a thermometer. If your core temp's going up you could have an infection. Test prop hurts. I always shoot glutes because my quads and delts feels like I got kicked by a horse. It normally takes about 5 to 6 days for my muscles to recover from the soreness. My buddy shoots the same stuff as me and feels nothing. I don't know why I feel like like I got abused while my friend feels nothing. It's just sorta like that. Give it some time and see how you feel. If the redness, heat and pain persists you need to get some new gear.

[garythompson]

I started taking antibiotics today too btw.

[garythompson]

Check your core temp with a thermometer. If your core temp's going up you could have an infection. Test prop hurts. I always shoot glutes because my quads and delts feels like I got kicked by a horse. It normally takes about 5 to 6 days for my muscles to recover from the soreness. My buddy shoots the same stuff as me and feels nothing. I don't know why I feel like like I got abused while my friend feels nothing. It's just sorta like that. Give it some time and see how you feel. If the redness, heat and pain persists you need to get some new gear.

it's not the prop I'm worried about, I know it hurts more than enanthate usually. but that aint the case here. The enanthate is the only thing that was injected into my shoulder and it's the only site I'm worried about. I thought maybe the size of the muscle had something to do with it because the delt is a lot smaller than the quad. I planned on injecting the prop that's scheduled tomorrow in my glute, if I can get back there, in hopes that it would not be as bad. if I inject the enanthate tuesday and get the same kind of results as my shoulder, that gear is getting tossed!

[lovbyts]

It could be the oils they cut it with. There are threads here about how you can cut it more or even re filter it.

[ScotchGuard]

lovbyts, that a great recommendation. I forgot all about the anabolic lab. You can filter your gear through a .22um whatman filter and it'll filter out all the bacteria, if there's any in there. You might want to add a little benzyl alcohol to keep any bacteria from multiplying. Then again, it might just be cheaper and easier to toss the old gear and get some new ones.

[garythompson]

swelling is continued to my elbow but some of the pain is gone although still tender. a little of the redness has went away too. my arm just looks "fat" right now

[garythompson]

could I have messed up something with injecting that one time since it was ok during first inject when I shot prop as well? I may do the enan again today in the leg where it was successful the first time. I always practice perfect protocal when injecting and clean the tops of the vials before and my skin with alcohol

[garythompson]

the swelling is past my elbow now. bump.

[BiggerByTheDay]

the swelling is past my elbow now. bump.

My recommendation .. see the doctor. If the swelling is now past your elbow, and it has been a few days since your injection, I wouldn't risk letting it go any further. Again, my opinion, but the doctor is where I would be heading first thing in the morning. Either way, good luck.

[garythompson]

the swelling around my elbow is kinda jiggly. is this the kind of thing that should be drained? my shoulder joint hurts some today. maybe it had something to do with how I slept but think it could have something to do with the swelling in the upper arm. my arm isn't so swollen that it couldn't go unnoticed unless you looked for it.

[ScotchGuard]

it sounds like you have a staph infection. Staph is sterile issue. You could have bad gear if your pinning was sterile. I had staph in my elbow. Red and hot for a while. Then when I took antibiotics and the infection was gone the elbow remained "pulpy". I had the doc drain it. Go see a doc and see if it's staph. If it is, you can kill it with antibiotics. Your elbow will be pulpy but your body will absorb the extra fluid. If you don't want to wait, just get it drained.

[garythompson]

it sounds like you have a staph infection. Staph is sterile issue. You could have bad gear if your pinning was sterile. I had staph in my elbow. Red and hot for a while. Then when I took antibiotics and the infection was gone the elbow remained "pulpy". I had the doc drain it. Go see a doc and see if it's staph. If it is, you can kill it with antibiotics. Your elbow will be pulpy but your body will absorb the extra fluid. If you don't want to wait, just get it drained.

thanks i think that may be what's happening to me. I injected the enan again today in the quad becuase I think I somehow messed up the injecting and so far so good. only thing bothering me now is this fluid buildup or whatever this is around the elbow. my delt is still little tender but nothing like it was.

Ive read on here about people draining it themselves. I'm thinking I'd rather do that then pay a doc to do the same thing. where exactly did he drain yours from? one spot or more than one spot? what gage of pin did he use if you know?

[ArmyMan04]

thanks i think that may be what's happening to me. I injected the enan again today in the quad becuase I think I somehow messed up the injecting and so far so good. only thing bothering me now is this fluid buildup or whatever this is around the elbow. my delt is still little tender but nothing like it was.

Ive read on here about people draining it themselves. I'm thinking I'd rather do that then pay a doc to do the same thing. where exactly did he drain yours from? one spot or more than one spot? what gage of pin did he use if you know?

Bro, I disagree. If its staph or you even THINK it might be...it needs to be looked at. I had a friend almost die from it. Go see a doc and have him drain it as well...

GL

[BiggerByTheDay]

Bro, I disagree. If its staph or you even THINK it might be...it needs to be looked at. I had a friend almost die from it. Go see a doc and have him drain it as well...

GL

Exactly. Go to the doc. If staph is what it is, it is nothing to play around with. My father took a staph infection in his index finger on his left hand, when he was in high school, that was treated with the wrong medicine prescribe from an idiot doctor. Long story short, the medicine didn't fight off the infection and by the time it was killed he couldn't straighten out that finger at all. To this day, it has remained 'folded' down. Therefore, if you let it continue without getting proper treatment, who knows what could happen if that is what it is.

[Apanda]

Agreed. Go see the doc man.

If it's staph it can get really ugly. It could also be MRSA, Staph resistant to all the normal methicillin treatments. That would make it even worse. If it gets into your lymph system you could be screwed. You may need a full spectrum treatment from the doc. Either way you will be much safer going to the doc if it's past your elbow and jiggly.

Google pictures of MRSA infections and staph infections. It can eat holes in your skin and muscle bro, in athletic training I have seen it get nasty.

[garythompson]

the only day I felt bad was late in the day on the second day. Other than that the only other pain was in the arm, and although it was pretty bad for a couple days it's mostly gone now. I took my temp yesterday and it was only a couple tenths over normal. with the pain leaving and swelling not growing anymore I think i'm in the clear now. I just need to wait for it to heal on it's own. I'm going to continue antibiotics for a the next few days and keep an eye on it.

[garythompson]

I only did antibiotics for the rest of that day then quit them. I've done two more injections since the one that messed up with the enanthate and everything went fine. I don't really know what happened with that one in my delt. I think I injected too close to the edge of the muscle or not deep enough. It was my first time injecting in the delt. The swelling is mostly gone and the injection site is almost painfree now. It's been a week. Just updating this incase anyone else had problems like this...

[Sheven]

check your fever. if you have fever then you got signs of infection

[stevey_6t9]

i always got very sore and swollen with prop,

just gota watch out for redness and fever.

[ArmedHammerd]

Im exp the same issue but instead of prop I pinned 2 ml of tren e in my shoulder I also have been taking penicilln now the top of my tri is feeling bulky other than that alot of the redness is gone still have some itchy feeling there but im as well keeping an eye on it from now on im sticking to quads lol

[garythompson]

It's was way better after a weeks time. It was red on the outside of my upper arm and looked just like a sunburn like I had my arm out of the window while driving. There was a line on the front and back where the red just stopped. I may have injected too low on the delt after looking at the pin hole a few days after the injection.

[garythompson]

Im exp the same issue but instead of prop I pinned 2 ml of tren e in my shoulder I also have been taking penicilln now the top of my tri is feeling bulky other than that alot of the redness is gone still have some itchy feeling there but im as well keeping an eye on it from now on im sticking to quads lol

Quads and glutes is the way to go. After this prop is gone it's just quads for me.

[gympigi]

If its any concilation, I had similar problems. Initially, I just injected into alternate ass cheeks every 3 days changing to the other for the next injection. Initially it was OK but then I got a long swollen lump on my right ass cheek, it was like a 3rd cheek! After about a week it went. Ultimately you need to worry if the site gets red, hot and itches, thats sometimes a sign it may be infected. What I did was introduce delts into the injection site equation and use a warm compress to massage the site after injection and on the swollen site. That got rid of it for me. Its not nice but dont worry too much, in all it took 2 weeks for my ass to return to normal! I personally think it is affected by how much muscle or how dense it is in an area but thats just my opinion and I have no grounds to base that on.