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    Critique My Test/Deca/DBOL Cycle - AI???

    Hey guys,
    I'm about to run a 500mg test e, 300mg deca, 30mg dbol cycle. Below are my stats and details.

    Stats:
    25 years old
    Progress Picture: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...010_4386_n.jpg
    5'11''
    Goal: is to bulk more. Chest is lagging as well as abs. Also trying to lose some BF for the next 3 weeks cutting/more cardio.

    Diet:
    breakfast - 5 egg whites, 2 eggs, 5 turkey bacon, cup of natty oats
    post workout - ON protein with 1/2 cup oats
    lunch1 - 8oz bison, asparagus, 8oz sweet potatoe, 1tbsp oliveoil
    lunch2 - 4oz chicken breast, 1 cup green beans, 1 cup brown rice(this would be 8oz if I was bulking)
    dinner - 6oz top siroil with veggies
    snack - ON shake with 1 cup skim milk (maybe add tbsp of ALPNB if calories are too low)
    bed - 1 cup low fat cottage cheese

    Cycle History:
    5 weeker of 500mg test e. My PCT was 100mg clomid / 40mg nolva for 12 days and 50mg clmoid / 20 mg nolva for 12 days. I went from 190 to 212 in 5 weeks but had some major bloating going on. My diet also sucked real bad. I ran it 5 weeks because I was an idiot and started without all of the gear. No f*** ups this time on my end.

    Cycle:
    Week 1-12: 500mg test e
    Week 1-10: 300mg deca
    Week 1-5: 30mg dbol

    PCT:
    Week 1 & 2: 40mg nolva, 100mg clomid, HCG 500IU eod(2weeks)
    Week 3 & 4: 20mg nolva, 50mg clomid

    Gyno / Ai:
    2 bottles of formestane - going to apply 2 pumps am / 2 pumps pm
    1 bottle of letro

    I know you shouldnt run nolva with deca. Is that ok to run once the deca is out of your system? I believe it is but wanted to double check. Should I get some bromo / adex? If so, how would you run it. I priced caber and its too much cash really.

    Also, whats the trick to mixing the HCG. I read online you need blacwater to mix it with then store it in the frig. I never used HCG so can someone shed some light on this? If not I'll keep researching it.
    I have about 3-4 weeks yet so let me know so I can get this all in check.

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    Also, i heard you can add var 6 weeks out to get that hardened look? Any thoughts?

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    At 14% BF you may not even notice the effects of Var.

    Considering you gained 12lbs in only 5 weeks of Test E, why not do it smart this time and run it for 12 weeks. Keep an AI on hand to combat bloat/estro and this time keep that diet in check. I see no reason for the Deca. The test treated you well last time, no need to throw in more compounds.

    As for the HCG, keep it pre-pct, not during.

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    How do you feel about the dbol kickstart if I drop the test.

    Wish I didn't buy the deca then. What ai would be best with just test/dbol? Adex? .25mg eod ?

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    Personal favorite would be Exemestane but Dex will do just fine. Dbol as a kick start is is g2g, just keep some liver protectant on hand and don't exceed 5 weeks.

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    Ok cool. Would milkthistle be ok? I been taking it for quite a while just to clean my liver. I used to drink a good bit before I started taking bbing seriously.

    As far as AI, if only running teste will the formestane be ok or would you definitely run adex with it?

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    I wouldn't rely on OTC, that's just my personal opinion. CEL makes great products but when dealing with real gear I like to have real AI's on hand.

    I prefer Liver Juice, NAC, Liv52 ect ect for my supplement of choice as far as the liver goes. A little milk thistle thrown in there wouldn't do any harm.

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    I was thinking LIV52. They have that where I order from.

    Ok cool thanks for the help. Keep an eye out around aug 9th ill be starting and will post some progress pictures as I go. Should get some good gains.

    Thanks again

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    Looking forward to it. Good luck.

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    As far as mixing HCG, do you have BW to mix it with? You mix it like you do a peptide, you fill your syringe with the BW your going to use to mix and inject the needle in the HCG top and then SLOWLY inject the BW into the bottle while holding the bottle sideways at a 45 degree or 90 degree (or somewhere in between) angle so the BW is dripping down the side of the bottle with the HCG in it, it is NOT being sprayed directly on the HCG. You can slowly swirl the bottle as your injecting the BW so that the BW is being mixed with the HCG GENTLY. The idea is to not spray the BW directly on the HCG, going slow and taking your time to mix the BW with the HCG is better than going faster. Then it's stored in the fridge.

    I've mixed HCG several times as part of a females hormone treatment and followed a nurse's guidance as to how to do it. It's the same as I learned how to mix peptides.

    Anyone please feel free to correct me if this is not accurate.

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