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    3rd cycle. Please Comment on all aspects.

    Hey guys.

    Finished up my last cycle 2 months ago and planning the next one.

    24
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    12% bf
    trainging 6 years

    Diet is spot on as i have competed before and know how it all works. In regard to AAS i will admit i do not know everything but am learning every day.
    Thats why im here to see what you guys think!!

    So I can get trenbolone ace 75, test cyp 200 and dianabol 10mg tabs. I am restricted as to what else i can get as i do not have the sources.

    So i was thinking 1 - 1.5 ml tren mon and thur
    2 ml cyp fri
    3 - 4 dianabol tabs a day ( only for 4 - 6 weeks)

    I was thinking of running the course for 8 - 10 weeks.

    I know to start the cyp 2 weeks earlier then the tren becasue of the half lifes. And then finished the cyp 11 days before my last tren shot so i can start pct 3 days after that.

    I have clomid and nolva for pct.

    So here are my questions.
    1. Is this enough of each to put decent size on?
    2. Should i keep the ml the same every week or in your opinion does pyramids the doses work?
    3. This might be stupid but can you pull the tren out, then the cyp out into the same needle and mix the compounds together so you dont have to do an extra injection. Or does this leave me open for infections ?
    4. I can get pregnyl for pct but do not know much about it and in your opinion does it work. ( i can't get HCG)
    5. Will nolva and clomid do alright for pct after these compounds? As i used these two after my last cycle and they worked great.

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    First of all tren ace is a short estered compound and must be shot at a minimum of eod with ed being ideal.
    And cyp should be shot every 3.5 days to keep blood levels stable.
    What exactly does your pct look like?
    You need to do alot more research before you start your cycle.
    On a side note to have completed 2 cycles by your age is also not highly recommended but what is done is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobra305 View Post
    First of all tren ace is a short estered compound and must be shot at a minimum of eod with ed being ideal.
    And cyp should be shot every 3.5 days to keep blood levels stable.
    What exactly does your pct look like?
    You need to do alot more research before you start your cycle.
    On a side note to have completed 2 cycles by your age is also not highly recommended but what is done is done.
    cyp can be injected once a week and is even more stable than enanthate. what are you talking about???

    also if he started at 23 i think he was fine....

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    twice a week keeps your levels more stable

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    Exilus, anything can be shot once a week but to keep stable blood levels long estered test should be shot every 3.5 days. And your right 3 cycles in a year is just super for your body. You think he is fine? Do not take this personally but your opinion is worthless to me seeing as you are 19 have ignored every piece of advice given to you on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobra305 View Post
    Exilus, anything can be shot once a week but to keep stable blood levels long estered test should be shot every 3.5 days. And your right 3 cycles in a year is just super for your body. You think he is fine? Do not take this personally but your opinion is worthless to me seeing as you are 19 have ignored every piece of advice given to you on this forum.
    2 cycles a year. learn to count to three.

    Age 23: 2 cycles.
    Age 24: hes starting his third.

    i have close to the same stats as you. You've only done one cycle, you parrot advice you read elsewhere and barely have any experience of your own. YOUR opinion is just as worthless as mine.

    btw the ONLY, ONLY advice i ignored was the "dont do it!". The rest about dosing protocols, pct, time off, diet, lifting etc I ALL followed or at least considered..
    Last edited by Exilus; 07-13-2010 at 12:02 AM.

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    Shoot the cyp twice a week Monday and Friday at 1ml each. With the tren how much do u have? u should be taking that ED or EOD like cobra said deffinatly not twice a week

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    Exilus, just because I have only completed one cycle does not mean I have not done my research. Parroting would be me giving advice that others have given without any knowledge as to what I am talking about. So please explain your logic as to why he should only shoot cyp once a week when people have posted numerous studies on here as to why it should be shot twice weekly to keep blood levels stable. Hell some have even posted charts on here illustrating the fluctions your levels have when you do not follow this protocol. And just fyi stats do not equal knowledge big guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobra305 View Post
    First of all tren ace is a short estered compound and must be shot at a minimum of eod with ed being ideal.
    And cyp should be shot every 3.5 days to keep blood levels stable.
    What exactly does your pct look like?
    You need to do alot more research before you start your cycle.
    On a side note to have completed 2 cycles by your age is also not highly recommended but what is done is done.
    Thanks for your input. I will be following standard tamox and clomid pct therapy.

    And i do not think my age is an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevey_6t9 View Post
    twice a week keeps your levels more stable
    ok will do the cyp mon and thur 1ml each day.

    In your opinion is it best to keep it at 1ml or should i pyramid it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by malidfa View Post
    Shoot the cyp twice a week Monday and Friday at 1ml each. With the tren how much do u have? u should be taking that ED or EOD like cobra said deffinatly not twice a week
    Ok mate, thanks for the advice.

    I can get plenty. in your opinion what it a standard weekly dosage?
    1ml every second day?

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    Also guys just wondering about the question i asked about pulling out the tren and the cyp into the same needle so i dont have to do two injections.

    Is this safe or stupid?

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    It is safe to pull up both together, but remember tren ace must be shot at least eod if not ed. If yopu do not know the standard weekly dose for a cycle of test I am not sure you are ready to continue cycling. Take some time and do some research. You are about to use to compounds and you have no clue how to dose them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobra305 View Post
    It is safe to pull up both together, but remember tren ace must be shot at least eod if not ed. If yopu do not know the standard weekly dose for a cycle of test I am not sure you are ready to continue cycling. Take some time and do some research. You are about to use to compounds and you have no clue how to dose them.
    Thank you for answering that question. And i have done my research, most studies say that tren ace has an active life of 2 - 3 days, wouldnt that suggest that doing it ever 3 days would be alright?
    Im not looking to go through heaps of gear and i dont want to overload myself im just looking at doing a sensible cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie_seth View Post
    Thank you for answering that question. And i have done my research, most studies say that tren ace has an active life of 2 - 3 days, wouldnt that suggest that doing it ever 3 days would be alright?
    Im not looking to go through heaps of gear and i dont want to overload myself im just looking at doing a sensible cycle.
    Consider half-life..not active life

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    Quote Originally Posted by wormwood View Post
    Consider half-life..not active life
    aahh i see. looks like i have underdosed my last two cycles. Not the worst thing in the world i guess as i got such good gains off them.

    Can't wait to see how this goes then.

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    Thanks for the help guys. Good to clear up a couple of misunderstandings

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