cytadren

[sproky0001]

Can anyone tell me about their experience with cytadren?

[Times Roman]

you only need to run one thread for the same question, bro'

and welcome

now you need to go to the new members section and intro yourself.

[Big]

I closed your thread in the "sarm" section since it is not a sarm. for starters, have you read the profile, and what do you need to know? what do you plan to use it for?

[sproky0001]

Well I'm involved in a certain line of work and cannot go on a full on stack. I've heard that Cytadren in conjuntion with a low level test injection is the way to go for someone in my predicament.

[sproky0001]

Specific questions would include dosage, should anything else be taken with it (I've read hydrocortisone tablets may be required although this may be only for long term usage), length of supplementation with Cytadren. Any personal anecdotes about it's usage that may help me, for instance should i ease into it by upping doage for a given number of days, side effects, or anything else that you or whomever may have wished to know before using it.

[Big]

what is the test cycle you are considering?

[sproky0001]

Testoviron Depot 250

[Big]

I mean what is the test cycle you are considering, not the compound.

[sproky0001]

250mg a week for 6 weeks, plus two 250 tabs of cytadren twice daily. I've never done a stack before this will be the first or closest thing to it I will probably come. I've reachead a point in my (very frequent) training that the anti cortisol effects of the cytadren could be beneficial, in addition to that the anti androgen effects couldn't hurt.

[sproky0001]

My stats are 27, 6'2" 200lbs, probably 15% body fat, maybe a bit less.

[Big]

6 weeks would be rather short for that compound.
age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?

[sproky0001]

I'll check back tommorow have to get to bed. Thanks for any help.

[sproky0001]

hey your fast I'll give you that...

[sproky0001]

how long would you recommend?

[Big]

test e is best run for at least 10 weeks, if you want a shorter cycle you should look into prop

[sproky0001]

I've heard that cytadren cannot be taken for more than 6 weeks at a time without it's effects being nullified by your body. At that point Hydrocortisone tablets would have to be taken but that limits the effectiveness of the cytadren.

[sproky0001]

Also I've heard about the 2 day on two day off for for the Cytadren but there appears to be disagreement out there as to the effectivness of that technique.

[Big]

I'm curious why you would be considering cytadren, which lost popularity many years ago, rather than any of the common serms or ai's typically used on cycles today?

[sproky0001]

Well I've known of people in the past (who I have since lost contact with) that used it with some success, but don't know many specifics about its usage other than what I've read.

[sproky0001]

Umm this is unrealated but I apparently cannot view my own profile...does anyone know how what I'm doing wrong?

[Big]

25 posts before you can view any profiles.
I would look into arimidex if you're wanting to use something along side test, and make sure you plan a good pct

[sproky0001]

I just looked at some arimidex info. it appears not to lower cortisol levels. That is one of the key idea's for me since I am lifting very frequently.

[Big]

what is your training split?

have you read the profile of cytadren? personally I wouldn't use it if it was free.

[sproky0001]

Why the interest FireGuy1?

[sproky0001]

Monday & thurs chest back abs, tue and Fri. Shoulders, power, biceps, triceps, and forearm, wed and sat. thighs, calves, lower back (power), abs

[sproky0001]

the tue/fri 'power' includes heavy upright rows and push presses.

[Big]

wow, not good assuming you would like to grow.

[sproky0001]

It's basically the prescribed regimen from the modern encyclopedia of bodybuilding...been on it for a while.

[Big]

you should read this.
http://www.steroid.com/Cytadren.php

[Big]

It's basically the prescribed regimen from the modern encyclopedia of bodybuilding...been on it for a while.

better you than me, I'm out of this one.
I tried.

[sproky0001]

I've seen some pretty good results. But results are starting to slow. The lower cortisol levels offered by Cytadren I find interesting...

[Big]

It's basically the prescribed regimen from the modern encyclopedia of bodybuilding...been on it for a while.

dude that was published in 1985... we have learned volumes since then.
if you aren't happy with your current gains you should consider a sensible training split, tweak your diet, and possibly supplement with the compounds we have found to work the best. why you would be using cytadren without even being on cycle is beyond me, but as I said I'm out of this one, I'll stick to helping those a bit more open minded. good luck



just in case you missed it, this is from the profile:

Well, it´s not quite perfect, as you´ll soon see. The first problem is that it (possibly) could reduce androgen levels. The best we could hope for is that it doesn´t have much of an effect on circulating androgen levels.

The next problem is that eventually your body, smart cookie that it is, will start to figure out ways to compensate for the reduction in cortisol, by either producing more, or inhibiting the Cytadren´s effects. Great... And while the cortisol isn´t present in your body, your joints will be aching. Yeah, I've actually used this stuff (the things I do in the name of science!), and it worked& made me look a bit "dryer" and more cut; but as I recall, it also made me sleepy. This could be due to its effects on the adrenal cortex, I don´t really know, but that´s a pretty good guess.

If you are thinking about using Cytadren for this purpose, I´d have to tell you to forget it. Three grams of Vitamin C lowers your Cortisol around as much as 1,000mgs of Cytadren, from the literature I´ve seen on both, and the Vitamin C doesn´t do it at the expense of your adrenal responsiveness (7). A gram of Vitamin C lowered cortisol by 1/3rd in UltraMarathon Competitors (8) (these are the people who apparently don´t have cars, so they feel compelled to run 90 kilometers at a time). I just can´t justify taking Cytadren for an extended period of time to reduce cortisol, when Vitamin can do the same thing, more cheaply, and has other added benefits.

Next, we have to deal with Cytadren´s liver toxicity (3). This stuff is pretty stressful on your liver. I guess we can use some milk thistle and such, but do we really want to risk it, when it´s effects on cortisol are short lived and it may reduce circulating androgen levels?

Maybe...

See you can use this stuff for (maybe) the last week or so while you are dieting for a bodybuilding contest, when your circulating androgens are being totally replaced by synthetic androgens, and you aren´t giving your adrenal-cortex much chance to shut down and make you lethargic, then I think it may be useful. Taking 500mgs/day for your last week of contest prep may help you to dry out that last little bit, and edge out that ever increasing specter of cortisol over production for long enough to do dial in for your contest. For athletes considering this compound in their cycles, I think this is not a viable option when you consider all of the other available options.

[CMB]

Im not here to talk to you about your workout regimen, but I do not suggest taking Cytardren. You want to lower your cortisol correct?

Take 3g of Vitamin C. Has the same effect on cortisol and it gives you some added benefits. Thats what I did back when I was a power-lifter. And also, it helps you recover faster, at least in my experience.

[sproky0001]

Well the cortisol/anti androgen effects together seem to offer an interesting duo no?

[sproky0001]

Especially when coupled with say low level test injection, and maybe some low dosage hgh?

[sproky0001]

You took 3g of vitamin C daily correct?

[sproky0001]

by the way thanks for putting up the link to that info Big

[sproky0001]

Oh but the reason for my proposed 'cycle' is partly to avoid detection.

[sproky0001]

I wouldn't say I'm closed minded

[sproky0001]

Then again no close minded person would...lol.