Been training 3-5days a week for the last 10 years.
24yrs 9mnths old, 6'2", 103kg (about 230lbs). Not sure what body fat but abs are visible.
Considering a beginners cycle such as test-e.
Opinions on weather I'm ready or not?
Thanks in advance.
Been training 3-5days a week for the last 10 years.
24yrs 9mnths old, 6'2", 103kg (about 230lbs). Not sure what body fat but abs are visible.
Considering a beginners cycle such as test-e.
Opinions on weather I'm ready or not?
Thanks in advance.
I was just about your stats when i did my first, was also Test-E only cycle and it worked well.
Stats vice you are ready imo, post your cycle plan in detail including pct.
i would say you are ready.. if your abs are visible then you are 15% or less BF
tell us what cycle you plan on doing and what your goals are so we can critique it
I don't yet have a cycle plan or PCT plan.
I was just wondering if people thought I was ready.
I would be looking at something along the lines of test-e 500mg per week for 8-12 weeks.
I will need to do more research into PCT and any other stuff I need to take to reduce side effects.
I also need to find a reliable source, I'm in Australia so I can't order online.
I'm basically trying to find as much info now as I can so I know what to do properly when I find a source.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Goals are for the moment are to gain lean muscle 10-20lb (whatever I can).
Long term I'm not sure, I don't plan to compete anytime soon (don't know If I ever will) but you never know.
I Don't Aspire to be Mr. O. I just want to be big and lean (Which I am getting there).
I would probably just like to do a few basic cycles (test and maybe dbol) and see how I go.
Above all I want to do it as safely as possible. And I don't plan on being a big-time user on 3, 4 or 5 different steroids all at high does in the future.
Last edited by hardcoretrainer2010; 08-06-2010 at 05:12 AM.
the effectiveness of Test after 8 weeks starts to dwindle, so technically you should up the dose a bit weeks 9-12 if you do a 12 week cycle.. but if it is your first cycle.. i would recomend doing 8 weeks at 500mg of test enthenate.. then weeks 10/11 start doing clomid and/or nolvadex
read up on Post Cycle Therapy on the board
the main reason i am suggesting an 8 week cycle is because it is your first.. you can stretch it to 10 weeks, as i did and most people do, but 8 weeks would be a good start for you.. see what you gain and if you like it.. and then you will only have to wait 10-12 weeks until your second.. of which i would recomend something like 300mgdeca and 600mg test for ten weeks..
keep reading, everything you need to know is on this board
i respectfully dissagree with this....first off test e dosent kick in until like week 4-5 for most so an 8 week cycle is kind of short imho...secondly although we are all different test dosent nessasarily stop working after 8 weeks so i see no need to need to ramp up your doses toward the end....to be honest your gains arnt so much dependent on the dose of test rather than your diet durring the cycle...if i were the op id just stick with a basic test e or c cycle for 10 to 12 weeks at 500mgs per week, its a tryed and true first cycle and you cant go wrong...as for pct ive always had good results from the nolva/clomid protocal for 4 weeks....read up on it in the pct forum so you understand the dosage....and please dont just jump on another cycle withough recovering from your first.....
agree with what you said in bold..
As for the eight week thing.. i got that information driectly from Ronnie Rowlands post.. you can read it for yourself here:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=402776
Ronnie Rowlands post or not, if you dont have experience with it yourself then dont advice!!
yea im familiar with ronnie and his knowledge and have nothing but respect for the man but like i said in my post we are all different so your/his 8 week rule isnt gospel imho as longer cycles have worked great for myself and many others...heres my question to you....what do peeps on trt do then after 8 weeks, do thay use more cus its all of a sudden innefective?...do thay just stop taking it?....
Ronnie knows his stuff, and I'm in accord with many of his posts and theories. But to say everyone that takes an anabolic steroid will not see gains after weeks 8 simply isn't true. As noted, achieving gains have many variables that come into play; nutrition, sleep, training, supplementation (to a degree). Not everyone's body chemistry is the same, so not everyone will achieve/plateau in the same manner.
I will agree, for most individuals the gains will start to slow down within the 8-12 week marker, but they don't just completely stop.. and the only solution is NOT to ramp up the dosage to continue making progress.
To the OP, your stats are looking good, and I commend you for the hard work you've put in to get there. But you have to look outside of the box. I would advise you to get blood work done, to see if you liver/kidneys and heart are all in good health. Be sure to take into consideration your blood pressure and cholesterol levels. Understand nutrition, how you should eat while you are "on" and right when you come "off". And most importantly, RESEARCH! Read until your brain hurts. Understand how compounds work, how ancillaries work, how to treat side effects if they may occur, which compounds work best together, which are notorious for water/pumps/headaches/lethargy/acne, which 17aa's are mild, which aren't, proper dosaging/protocols, understanding each half life, detection times and SERMS, novice cycles, intermediate cycles, and advanced cycles. Once you can answer all of these questions, and have the knowledge to set yourself up a proper cycle without anyone telling you how to make it, then you are truly ready.
the time on+pct=time off is a rule of thumb but shouldent replace occasional bloodwork to really see where you are at if your going to continualy do cycles imho....and i dont get your if you live in ozz comment.....500mg test for 10-12 weeks is the basic begginer cycle so i dont think its far fetched but whatever im not trying to argue with you just putting in my 2 cents with my real world experiance/knowledge....
It seems I have read 100's of these types of posts....and I am sure all you Vets have seen the question asked 1,000's of times. IDK but it would seem to me that if you have to ask the question..."AM I READY TO USE STEROIDS??"......you probably aren't. If you have done your homework.....You will know when you are ready, and if you are still asking....you need to do more homework.
JMO
Post up some pictures and that will help us determine where you are at?
I just want to try them and see how I go, do a few cycles.
I dont't a few cycles done properly is life risking.
I don't plan on constantly using heavy doasges of multiple compounds for the next 20 years like some guys do.
I just want to give myself a boost over the next year or so.
I also don't plan on jumping into a cycle next week.
Maybe sometime within the next 6 months or something, I want to do as much research as possible. I was only asking the question to see what the opinions were of guys with experience.
If your pictures meet your stats I would say your body is ready and the way you are not talking about jumping in right a way is good also. People here have great advise so its good to see when people actually take it. Take your time and gain all the knowledge you can from here since you have tons of time to cycle. I do agree that everybody is diferent and the gains will speed up and slow down differently for everyone.
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