Phate's S4 Log

[Phate]

Yeah that's right, i'm running S4, and i'm gonna log it so ya'll can here a first person account of how good this stuff is

First off, my stuff is the real deal, the source has been confirmed and such(don't ask me about sources, ya'll know that isn't allowed) and i'm sure my log will show that

Here is my cycle, feel free to critique it or ask questions

1-6 or 1-8, i'm still deciding as i've heard conflicting info on it, i'm researching it now and getting some help from friends who have run it

the normal dosage is between 0.5-1.5mg/kg of body weight, i'm going to take a little over 1.0mg/kg(that number exactly gives me around 90mg/day and i'm going to take 100mg/day)

i'm going to run my diet as follows

large muscle group days(legs day and back day) are going to be the days i use a clean cheat to bump leptin levels, calories a bit above maintainance

other workout days calories will be below maintainance due to dropping of carbs

nonworkout days carbs will be greatly reduced(mostly fibrous veges)


i'm hoping to gain some lean muscle mass and drop substantial bf

i doubt i'll post pics for this log, BUT just for you guys, i will get composition tested tonight and every 2 weeks so you can track it, as well as post strength increases by logging my workouts

this stuff is taken orally and has a 4 hour half life so i'll be taking it 3x a day

[Phate]

Pseudo Day 1


I just took my first dose, the liquid(it's in oil) has a yellowish tinge and tastes like shvt. Tastes EXACTLY like the shark i dissected in zoology a week ago smelled.

i'm going to workout shoulders/traps/tris in a few hours

[jimmyinkedup]

Im very interested in this phate.....looking forward to hearing what your experience is...

[D7M]

Interesting.

I'll be following

[Ernst]

I'll be following this. Good luck!

[Dukkit]

im signed up

let it begin!!

[wukillabee]

Sounds good! Nice to see a vet do a log.

[MuscleScience]

You know taking S4 will not make you into a man, Only DSM4life can do that for you!

[oneshot]

hmmm interesting. been curious as to whether sarms are the real deal or just some temporary hype.

every move you make,
every step you take,
every bond you break,
I"LL BE WATCHIN YOU!

[Phate]

You know taking S4 will not make you into a man, Only DSM4life can do that for you!

hmmm, i'll have to ask him to make a housecall then

hmmm interesting. been curious as to whether sarms are the real deal or just some temporary hype.

every move you make,
every step you take,
every bond you break,
I"LL BE WATCHIN YOU!

LMAO^^^^ stalker much???

[Phate]

Since ya'll are the ones that will be reading this, how bout some opinions on how i should do it

do you want me to write out every set of every workout or just make note of significant strength increases and my personal feelings towards how it is affecting me


this will be in addition to the body composition tests that i will be getting every 2 weeks

[MuscleScience]

Since ya'll are the ones that will be reading this, how bout some opinions on how i should do it

do you want me to write out every set of every workout or just make note of significant strength increases and my personal feelings towards how it is affecting me


this will be in addition to the body composition tests that i will be getting every 2 weeks

Just write out the significant changes. Writing out every set and rep gets old fast!

Good luck with your log!

[Phate]

Just write out the significant changes. Writing out every set and rep gets old fast!

Good luck with your log!

that's what i was think, as i've read a ton of logs and i rarely read everything posted

[MuscleScience]

that's what i was think, as i've read a ton of logs and i rarely read everything posted

Exactly, I could care less how many reps and sets someone does on shoulder flies....

I basically only look at a few of the compound lifts people do. How strong someone gets on arm curl is not a good measure of progress in my opinion.

[marseea1]

forgive me for asking but what is s-4

[Phate]

forgive me for asking but what is s-4

S4 is a SARM(selective androgen receptor modifier), there is a SARM section under the AS section if you would like to read about them

[wukillabee]

Just write out the significant changes. Writing out every set and rep gets old fast!

Good luck with your log!

Yep! 13 weeks, 5 days a week gets old logging! Good for me though to see where im at and make changes if needed and to have a personal record. But for Phate's question, id go with option 2. Just let us know how its goin bro.

[jbm]

Good Luck Phate!

[WARMachine]

that's what i was think, as i've read a ton of logs and i rarely read everything posted

Meh!

Should post what exercises you do at least once so we know your routine.

And if you switch it up a lil, then post that as well obviously...


And come on brutha! Pics or bust!

[Phate]

Meh!

Should post what exercises you do at least once so we know your routine.

And if you switch it up a lil, then post that as well obviously...


And come on brutha! Pics or bust!

wish i could, no camera and i don't have the money to get one, phone is broken as well

[hugovsilva]

Good stuff.

I will be following.

[Reed]

Yeah I think you should write out at least a little something. I understand you may not be competitive which means writing out stuff does get old for some but lets get some kinda of basics. Its nice to know someones routine and where they are.

And what about your stats. Where you at?? and I agree at least give us a pic, its not that hard to get one. Lets see what all the knowledge has translated to. Don't get me wrong, you don't have to a great physique to be respected with your knowledge but you're a young buck, you should be killin the girls when the shirt comes off!!!!! haha



Good luck either way

[Phate]

took a dose before legs this morning

worked out with a friend of mine

i emphasize ROM on legs going as deep as possible on everything

4 sets of front squats
4 sets of leg press (drop set on 4th set)
4 sets of squat on a free motion machine(cool little machine)
3 sets of car pushes

next leg workout will emphasize hams


i'll be getting body comp tested on monday

[Phate]

Rest day today


took my first dose an hour ago, rest of the day is all about my mom so no lifting for me

[mho]

took a dose before legs this morning

worked out with a friend of mine

i emphasize ROM on legs going as deep as possible on everything

4 sets of front squats
4 sets of leg press (drop set on 4th set)
4 sets of squat on a free motion machine(cool little machine)
3 sets of car pushes

next leg workout will emphasize hams


i'll be getting body comp tested on monday

Is it the one with the adjustable platform? If so, I love that damn thing.

[RANA]

Logging in, good luck and keep us posted

[Dukkit]

wish i could, no camera and i don't have the money to get one, phone is broken as well

i know what you look like

but shhh. i wont tell.

[Jumbo18]

do you feel different?

[Phate]

i know what you look like

but shhh. i wont tell.

it's cool, i'm gonna post some pics in a little while

do you feel different?

not yet, it's only day 4 and i've heard it kicks in around day 10, supposedly it's around the same as a moderate prop cycle as far as strength gains and such

[Phate]

No noticable change in strength/endurance yet

4 sets DB incline press
5 sets DB bench press
6 sets different angle flys superseted with 3 sets of tricep pushdowns and 3 sets of cable push downs
3 sets of overhead tricep press
3 sets of weighted dips

feel free to critique my workouts and such

[Jumbo18]

that's cool, are SARMS considered keepable gains due to not suppressing testosterone levels, or increasing your own levels further?

[Phate]

that's cool, are SARMS considered keepable gains due to not suppressing testosterone levels, or increasing your own levels further?

from what i've heard they are definitely keepable gains, they don't suppress natty test much as they aren't hormonally driven

[Jumbo18]

thats cool, i'm keeping up with your progress, good luck phate.

[jbm]

Nice progress!
I'm still watching you and your thread...

[Phate]

No significant strength increases

i have bumped up dose to 120mg/day and will being running it at this dose from now on

this is 1.35mg/kg of body weight

[Reed]

It'll come phate it'll come.

keep it going......

[MuscleScience]

No significant strength increases

Maybe you need to get your diet and training in check first, Newb.....

[Phate]

It'll come phate it'll come.

keep it going......

i'm not worried, just making announcements day by day so people can track when things came on and such for future reference

Maybe you need to get your diet and training in check first, Newb.....

good point, i shall write out and review my diet tomorrow to double check it

[NewMuscle83]

wish i could, no camera and i don't have the money to get one, phone is broken as well

Damn, S-4 must be real cheap then j/k

Definitely subbed. I know you will give an accurate account of your experience. I might be interested in running this based on your results.

Good luck.

[t-gunz]

i'll be following phate.
best of luck mate