cycle advise

[amoureux]

hello gentlemen, Im about to start a cycle of winstrol,test cyp, and trenbolone acetate. I need suggestions on the best way to run this gear. I thought about starting with the test cyp and winstrol for the first six weeks and then running the tren and test cyp for the last six weeks because ive planned on a 12 week cycle. I just need advice on dosage and such. This will be my third cycle ive ever done never have i used tren or winny but i plan on using the winny every day until im done with it and the tren eod and the test once a week until its gone. I need to know if i need any serms or anything to have on hand before starting the cycle so i can stop some of the sides. Im 5-9,200 lbs,and 29 years old

thanks for any help

[MaNiCC]

Stats?

Age
Height
Weight
Bodyfat
Training Experience
Cycle Experience

-MaNiCC-

[amoureux]

age 29
height 5 9
weight 200
bodyfat unknown but prob kind of high right now
training experience close to 3 years
cycle expierience 1st cycle 12 weeks of test cyp
2nd cycle 11 weeks of test prop and decca and 4 weeks of dbol

[HawaiianPride.]

age 29
height 5 9
weight 200
bodyfat unknown but prob kind of high right now
training experience close to 3 years
cycle expierience 1st cycle 12 weeks of test cyp
2nd cycle 11 weeks of test prop and decca and 4 weeks of dbol

That's not always a good thing going into a cycle. You should get an accurate test on this before pinning.

[MaNiCC]

Agree with hawian on this, What does trouble me is that you have previous cycle experience so surely you should know not to pin when over 10-15 bf

-MaNiCC-

[amoureux]

Well i will have to get my bodyfat checked out im sure its not ridiculously high im in pretty good shape i will get this checked right away but for the record i know people with a higher body fat then me and they pin and they still build a lot of muscle

[HawaiianPride.]

Yeah, I'm sure they do. But they are at a higher risk of ERSE's then people with a lower BF (15% or less).

[amoureux]

No offense guys but ill take my chances with the erses I was hoping for some advice I've looked at pictures of people 15% and besides that I know I'm close to that so I was just asking for advise if u don't want to offer any don't post anything here is my plan so far weeks 1-6 test at least 400mg and 75 mg ed of winstrol then for weeks 6-12 at least 400mg of test and 75mg eod of tren

Any cycle advise will b much appreciated and any help on what I might need while on I might go with arimedex I'm going to look into more info I'm just wanting some help from u guys

[amoureux]

No offense guys but ill take my chances with the erses I was hoping for some advice I've looked at pictures of people 15% and besides that I know I'm close to that so I was just asking for advise if u don't want to offer any don't post anything here is my plan so far weeks 1-6 test at least 400mg and 75 mg ed of winstrol then for weeks 6-12 at least 400mg of test and 75mg eod of tren

Any cycle advise will b much appreciated and any help on what I might need while on I might go with arimedex I'm going to look into more info I'm just wanting some help from u guys

[HawaiianPride.]

Keep a close eye on elevated estro and prolactin...

Sorry you didn't get the advice you wanted to hear.

[D7M]

1-12 Test 400mg/wk
1-6 Winny 75mg/ED
6-12 75mg/EOD tren ace

^^That's your proposed cycle, just making it clearer for people.

I agree with the others, to lower your body fat, and once you do, you could run it like this:

1-12 Test 400mg/wk
4-10 Winny 75mg/ED (split am/pm)
4-10 Tren A 75mg/EOD

Planned pct?

[amoureux]

Planned pct I will just go with ar-r clomid and nolva

So if I get my body fat % down I could run the winny and the tren together weeks 4 through ten?

[amoureux]

Mon 75mg
Wed 75mg
Fri 75mg
Sun 75mg
Tue 75 mg
Thu 75mg
Sat 75mg

If I run my tren ace like that eod I have to 10ml 75mg vials will that be enough for six weeks? Also I have 4 10ml vials of 50mg winstrol and I was going to do 50mg of the winstrol ed does it sound like I have enough for six weeks of winny and tren ace?

[HawaiianPride.]

2 10ml vials shot @ 1ml EOD will last slightly over 5 1/2 weeks. Easy math brotha come on now :]

[amoureux]

Alright cool that's what I came up with too so 5 and a half weeks of tren ace is that enough time to make good gains with proper diet and training

[amoureux]

Also what do you guys think if I ran it this way

Weeks 1-10 400mg of test cyp
Week 1-6 50mg ed of winstrol
Week 4-10 tren ace 75mg eod

And my winstrol is stanabol 50 it looks like milk and is 50mg stanazolol

[amoureux]

Bump

[HawaiianPride.]

It's fine. Monitor BP and keep a Prolactin drug on hand. You never mentioned your PCT protocol. Care to share it?

[amoureux]

What kind of prolactin drug for example? I plan on using nolva and clomid for pct. Is there any other stuff I might need while I'm on to fight gyno or sides. I just want to have all my ducks in a row and as much information as possible before starting this time I plan on taking ten weeks off of work for this and using the whole time for diet cardio and training for maximum results this go round I'm going to live this for ten weeks and try my best to maintain with my work schedule in the future

[HawaiianPride.]

Bromo, Dostinex, things of that nature. The banner at the corner of the page sells a few prolactin antagonizers.

[amoureux]

Are u talking about ar-r or the other banner

Is clomid and nolvadex the proper protocol for pct for this?

[HawaiianPride.]

Yes I'm talking about the AR website.

Clomid/Nolva is the proper protocol for any cycle.

[amoureux]

Yea I've used ar twice now and I really like the way they do business thanks bro

[amoureux]

I researched and it says the dostinex is better with less side and you suggested a prolactin antagonizer but ar-r doenst sell dostinex so what could I buy from them that would be the same for the issues some people have with tren

[Bonaparte]

The real term for these drugs is "dopamine agonist", since dopamine in turn lowers prolactin secretion.
And Dostinex is just the brand name for Cabergoline (liquid Cab on ar-r).

[amoureux]

Wow the caber is expensive will I need it for the winstrol too or just the tren? I'm going to order some is there anything else like maybe arimdex I will need bc I want to get it all ordered at once

[amoureux]

Also what's the dosage on caber?

[HawaiianPride.]

0.5mg 2x PW did it for me.

[amoureux]

oh cool that means that one bottle will last for more than one cycle? Can I use it with the winstrol or just when I run my tren?

[Bonaparte]

oh cool that means that one bottle will last for more than one cycle? Can I use it with the winstrol or just when I run my tren?

You normally only need a dopamine agonist while running a 19-nor (tren).