Honestly help!!!!

[HighRoller101]

okay hey guys currently i am taking Test E at 500 Mg per week and i am two pins into my second vial and my testicles have not shrank one big i am only gaining about 2 or 3 lbs and i feel like it is not kicking in and i am using the same Test E i used on my first cycle i have no idea whats going on????????????? helpp

[peachfuzz]

Its whats not going on. Your diet.

[HighRoller101]

no....i posted up my diet on the diet boards couple times and they think its legit

[peachfuzz]

Dude it has to be. If your saying its the same test as last time. same batch #?

taking any anti estros?

[SnaX]

Lol I'm sure his diet has nothing to do with the size of his testicles lol.
Maybe he just has big ol balls

Did this test come in the same order you used with your last shots? Or was this two individual orders to get these vials?
And is this UGL or some Pharm grade Test?

If two orders, I would say perhaps not legit Test on the second order.

[peachfuzz]

Lol I'm sure his diet has nothing to do with the size of his testicles lol.
Maybe he just has big ol balls

Did this test come in the same order you used with your last shots? Or was this two individual orders to get these vials?
And is this UGL or some Pharm grade Test?

If two orders, I would say perhaps not legit Test on the second order.

I wasn't even acknowledging the testicle comment because it is irrelevant to whether or not he has real Test and he is using UGL whos quality has been called into question before.

[SnaX]

I wasn't even acknowledging the testicle comment because it is irrelevant to whether or not he has real Test and he is using UGL whos quality has been called into question before.

That's my point.
But being that he has cycled before, I am sure he would know how to eat properly to make good gains.

I think we can both agree on the Lab being the culprit.

[peachfuzz]

I still say diet. This doesnt look like a well thought out diet to me....

5 eggs morning, oatmeal
granola bars for little snack
white rice with 2 chicken breasts
another scoop of rice later on in day
dinner- usally some beef, pork, pasta etc
later on around 7 have another bowl of rice
and usually another granola bar or two couple hours before bed

[HighRoller101]

i got these vials as a second batch the # is different, its products and i have never had a problem and neither has any of my friends, and also my diet has been in check. so im guessing these vials are not legit

[HighRoller101]

yeah well that is my diet past couple weeks because i work 8 hours on most days and i just ended my job. so i have added in other things such as greens, tuna and others

[peachfuzz]

You need to be more detailed then what you have listed...

Do you know how many calories, carbs, protein or fats your taking in?

Do you know what you require per day?

[SnaX]

I still say diet. This doesnt look like a well thought out diet to me....

Ah yeah, I agree he could use some more NomNomNom'ing of the foods.

So it's either a weak diet (very plausible), and/or bad gear on the second batch.
I'm not too up to date on this lab as of late, so I can't say anything regarding their current quality. I'll take your word on them being questionable. Some labs go bad after a while. It's a shame.

Bah, I'm off to bed. Get R' Done peach. (*Group Hug* C'mon you know ya want it. )

[HighRoller101]

couple weeks ago i put down all my calories for the day and it was 4800, and no i do not know what i require per day. and i did post that i have been working so it has been hard past month in my last forum.

[HighRoller101]

i mean i know i need to get my diet in check here a little more but i honestly havent been feeling anything i have been getting good pumps in the gym, but results im not seein very much, and i agree it could be more towards my diet because i have been workin and its been hard but i also feel like it could be the Test

[big aussie]

your balls are shutdown because your using test so your natural production stops. didnt you know this would happen before you started?

[peachfuzz]

Ah yeah, I agree he could use some more NomNomNom'ing of the foods.

So it's either a weak diet (very plausible), and/or bad gear on the second batch.
I'm not too up to date on this lab as of late, so I can't say anything regarding their current quality. I'll take your word on them being questionable. Some labs go bad after a while. It's a shame.

Bah, I'm off to bed. Get R' Done peach. (*Group Hug* C'mon you know ya want it. )

No one I know has ever had an issue with the particular lab nor has he or his buddies so i say its been called into question tounge in cheek.

couple weeks ago i put down all my calories for the day and it was 4800, and no i do not know what i require per day. and i did post that i have been working so it has been hard past month in my last forum.

I dont see 4800 but i dont know the amounts your consuming. You should try and figure out your TDEE.

On another note if your working a lot more then you were last cycle and your bigger then you were last cycle then then that could be why your having a hard time gaining.

anyway im off to train.

[HighRoller101]

haha yes i knew that?

[HighRoller101]

thanks peachy and have a good one and yeah i know i just stopped working and the last cycle i was not working either so that may play a part in it thanks though

[boxin23]

5 eggs morning, oatmeal
granola bars for little snack
white rice with 2 chicken breasts
another scoop of rice later on in day
dinner- usally some beef, pork, pasta etc
later on around 7 have another bowl of rice
and usually another granola bar or two couple hours before bed


Brother if this is your diet above .....you are waaaaaaayyyy off.

You need to research first of all the Harris Benedict Formula for men.
Then figure out your TDEE . This will be a multiplier once you figure out the Cals required to gain. If you need help I can do the calc for you. Give me all your stats...age, weight, etc.

Also regarding your diet. I have bolded the areas that really need help. You are not getting even close to enough protein in this diet. You need to get rid of the rice and eat way more protein. And a granola bar??? NO...you will not gain anything eating like this. Guaranteed. And i think you are way off on the cals. Spreadsheet it out down to the macro for me so i can look.

Thanks

[HighRoller101]

sounds good ill write down everything i have tomorrow and let you know

and my stats are 24, 5'9, and weigh 180 and body fat % is around 10 last time i checked

[HighRoller101]

alright well ima go back into the diet section see what some meal plans are and what others are eating

[junkiescumbag]

even with a shit diet. you would still feel the effects of test. has nothing to do with his diet

[boxin23]

Ok so here is a little info for you.

The BMR formula uses the variables of height, weight, age and gender to calculate the Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR). This is more accurate than calculating calorie needs based on body weight alone. The only factor it omits is lean body mass and thus the ratio of muscle-to-fat a body has. Remember, leaner bodies need more calories than less leaner ones. Therefore, this equation will be very accurate in all but the very muscular (will underestimate calorie needs) and the very fat (will over-estimate calorie needs).

So given that here is the equation:

English BMR Formula
Women: BMR = 655 + ( 4.35 x weight in pounds ) + ( 4.7 x height in inches ) - ( 4.7 x age in years )

Men: BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )

So use the mens formula for yourself. And after you get that number. You need to figure out your TDEE. This will be a multiplier that will reduce or increase your calories based on your daily activity levels.

Then you will have to eat like 500 cals above that number to GAIN weight or eat right at that number to MAINTAIN weight or eat under that number to loose weight.

Calc that out for yourself. It is fun and will really help you understand. Calc it out and ill double check it for you if you like.

Good luck

[Sector]

Not allowed to discuss brands highroller. Id edit that out.

[boxin23]

even with a shit diet. you would still feel the effects of test. has nothing to do with his diet

I am not debating wether or not the TEST is real.

I am seeing problems in his diet and trying to help in that department.
I can't control if someone has bunk gear. But I can help them if their diet is lacking or knowledge of diet is lacking, which it is clear that help was needed in those departments first.

Hopefully the gear is bad so he can learn how to eat first so when his diet is dialed in the gear will really be of some benefit

[HighRoller101]

sounds good yeah i read up on it a little bit ago and i will have to calculate all that out tomorrow thanks alot and i posted up a days meal in the diet section so i hope i can get some help from everyone thanks

[Sector]

i am two pins

So how many weeks have you been on Test E?

[HighRoller101]

okay i just calculated it out and says i should be getting around 1600 cals haha i dunno if this is right and too ur comment boxin im thinkin the gear is not legit

[Sector]

okay i just calculated it out and says i should be getting around 1600 cals haha i dunno if this is right and too ur comment boxin im thinkin the gear is not legit

Thats not right. How many weeks have you been on the Test?

[HighRoller101]

this is my 6

[HighRoller101]

okay i was just thinking it says to store at 66-78 degrees i stored it at my gf's place because i was livin with my parents for about a month and it was a little cold where i stored it im thinking this could have a huge effect???? maybe im wrong

[HighRoller101]

right now im two pins into my second vial

[Sector]

this is my 6

Its not too late for it to "kick in" but I would think you would have felt something by now. That said, even if you did experience libido or testicular atrophy your protein intake looks to be about 125-175 a day and I would guess you arent breaking 3k calories. You could have the most potent test in the world and see crap results with a diet like that.

[HighRoller101]

yeah exactly so thats why im like wtf? should see some lbs. and my first cycle i blew up and my balls got super small and came back with my pct but my testes have not shrunk one bit

[Sector]

yeah exactly so thats why im like wtf? should see some lbs. and my first cycle i blew up and my balls got super small and came back with my pct but my testes have not shrunk one bit

You wont see some lbs if you are undereating calories let alone protein. Thing is, gear or no gear if you had your diet and training right you should have gained 3-6 lbs over a 6 week period.

[boxin23]

Men: BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )

SO BMR= 66+ (1121.4)+(876.3)-(163.2) =1900.5 cals THis is your BMR

THEN:

Once you know your BMR (basal metabolic rate) then use your daily activity factor to get your total daily energy expenditure (TDEE):

-Sedentary................BMR x 1.2 (little exercise)

-Lightly active...........BMR x 1.375 (light exercise)

-Moderately active.....BMR x 1.55 (moderate exercise)

-Very active.............BMR x 1.725 (hard exercise)

-Extremely active......BMR x 1.9 (hard exercise daily)

So i put you on Moderately Active and took 1900.5x1.55=2945.77 CALS TO MAINTAIN YOUR WEIGHT. NOW ADD 500 CALS TO THAT EVERY DAY AND YOU WILL GAIN.

YOU NEED 3500 CALS ROUGHLY A DAY TO GAIN.

HOPE THIS HELPS

[HighRoller101]

yeah well thats what im around probably more im guessing i will write down all my stuff i eat tomorrow and post it up, but whats the deal with where i stored my gear if it was below that temp would it ruin the gear? between 66-78 degrees?

[HighRoller101]

the only reason im saying i know im above 3500 cals is because i have a huge freezer full of steak and meat because we cut up a cow every year and i eat plenty of it ground beef,pork, steak, fish, etc

[boxin23]

yeah well thats what im around probably more im guessing i will write down all my stuff i eat tomorrow and post it up, but whats the deal with where i stored my gear if it was below that temp would it ruin the gear? between 66-78 degrees?

I have had those compounds stored at those temps and had no problem at all.

[boxin23]

the only reason im saying i know im above 3500 cals is because i have a huge freezer full of steak and meat because we cut up a cow every year and i eat plenty of it ground beef,pork, steak, fish, etc

Well you will be surprised. Most people say they are eating like 5000+ a day and they are incorrect. It may be like your calculation you did. You came up with 1600 and were way off. You will get it though. Just write it down to the macro and you will see.

I can tell you for sure just looking at your diet that you are not getting enough protein.