Testo E only, for 38 weeks

[BiggeriBoom]

Hi, im strongly considering going on my first AAS cycle and a long one. Im 20 years old, 98kg, 190cm and a bf around 20%. The cycle im planing looks like this:

V1-V16 Testo E 500mg e5d (hcg 250 iu V2-4, 6-8, 10-12, 14-16)
V16-V28 Testo E 250mg e7d (hcg if needed)
V28-V38 Testo E 500mg e5d (hcg V28-30, 32-34, 36-38)
V.40 PCT: Nolva first day 160mg, until i feel better 20mg.

Im also going to put in Clen, effedrin and Winnar in the end of the cycle:
V28-30 Clen
V30-32 Effedrin + 50mg winnar ed
V32-34 Clen + 50mg winnar ed
V34-36 Effedrin + 50mg winnar ed
V36-38 Clen + 50 mg winnar ed
V38-40 Effedrin
V40-42 Clen

I will also buy Arimidex and use it if needed. The thinks im woundering about is the PCT, iam going to be on for 8-9 month so do i need anything more in the PCT then just nolva? 250 iu hCG with 2 weeks on 2 weeks off periods, is it enough?

I think its better to be on for a longer time then go off and start a PCT and 2-3 month later go ON agian when the body still isent fully recoverd after the first cycle. After this i will be off AAS for a 8 month then go on a new cycle.

Please tell your opinion and if i have forgotten something.

/BiggeriBoom

[_ripp3d_]

Your 20 and you want to go on a 38 week cycle? Wow you are gonna get eaten up very soon...

[_ripp3d_]

And I would give you my opinion but I am not familiar enough with the AAS you are looking to use, well except for the test-e anyways.

[HawaiianPride.]

Either you are joking, or you don't have the slightest clue on what your doing.

[BiggeriBoom]

Like i said, I think its better to stay on Testo E instead of going off start a PCT and then go on 2-3 month later like the mostly people do.. Hm thought the name of the aas was the same as in europe? which ass are you not familliar with?

/BiggeriBoom

[BiggeriBoom]

Either you are joking, or you don't have the slightest clue on what your doing.

Why would i be joking? Many people are on testo 10 years... 250mg e7d isent a big amount.. and i thinks it better to stay on it then go on a PCT feel bad a while and then go on agian when the body isent fully recoverd..

sorry if my english sucks, but i hope you understand my point.

[HawaiianPride.]

You ever hear that saying "too much of a good thing is bad"??? Well it applies to Anabolic Steroids like you wouldn't believe. You are severely uneducated.

Here's what you are setting yourself up with if you decide to run with a long term abusive steroid plan at your age:

Permanent HPTA damage
Premature closure to your growth plates
Erectile Dysfunction
Permanent shut down to your natural testosterone production
Heart Disease
Plaque deposition in the arteries
Changes in the cardiovascular system that can increase susceptibility to stroke or heart attack

People are on long term steroid plans for medicinal purposes due to deficiency of Testosterone or other medical issues. The guys you see out there that cruise all year long on TRT or even higher dosages that aren't under professional supervision, and or aren't monitoring their organisms/blood work are basically setting themselves up for any one of the complications I've listed above.

Understand the risks you are putting yourself through.

[dec11]

you are too young, read the stickies at top of forum page

[TRT2010]

wow.. this is deff not a good idea man. i would deff think about this before you do anything

[BiggeriBoom]

Im not to young so please stop with that kind of shit.. You look up to arnold right?

I have conserd this cycle a while and will probly start in the end of september.

The thing is if you go on a Testo E cycle 12 weeks, it will take 6 month for your body to fully recover (the PCT is just a helping start it dosent make you fully recoverd.) I wanna go on a Testo E cycle for 12 weeks, then cruise on lower level for about 10 weeks, then go agian on a Testo E cycle for 12 weeks... It seems to me much better then start a PCT and go on agian 2 month later.. So maybe i have described it wrong, but its 2 cycle im going to go on with abit short cruise beetween.. 250mg e7d testo e isent a high level imo...

Clen+effedrin is for helping to lose bodyfat on my second cycle and winnar (winstrol) will I blast with the last 8 weeks.

My PCT will be on Nolva and some hCG, but do you guys think its good to use clomid also?

/BiggeriBoom

[big_ron]

im not sure you fully understand the risks...do you know what trt is?

[dec11]

Im not to young so please stop with that kind of shit.. You look up to arnold right?

I have conserd this cycle a while and will probly start in the end of september.

The thing is if you go on a Testo E cycle 12 weeks, it will take 6 month for your body to fully recover (the PCT is just a helping start it dosent make you fully recoverd.) I wanna go on a Testo E cycle for 12 weeks, then cruise on lower level for about 10 weeks, then go agian on a Testo E cycle for 12 weeks... It seems to me much better then start a PCT and go on agian 2 month later.. So maybe i have described it wrong, but its 2 cycle im going to go on with abit short cruise beetween.. 250mg e7d testo e isent a high level imo...

Clen+effedrin is for helping to lose bodyfat on my second cycle and winnar (winstrol) will I blast with the last 8 weeks.

My PCT will be on Nolva and some hCG, but do you guys think its good to use clomid also?

/BiggeriBoom

your attitude is also immature, and no, most adults dont look up to anyone but look to improve themselves and aim for attainable goals. if you persist with tht attitude you'll get no advice at all

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Everything in moderation...

[themoreyouknow]

you want to cruise at 20 years old?! thats a terrible idea. You are setting yourself up to be on trt for the rest of your life!

[BiggeriBoom]

I start the cycle in the end of the september, see you guys in 10 month with the results.

/BiggeriBoom

[_ripp3d_]

I start the cycle in the end of the september, see you guys in 10 month with the results.

/BiggeriBoom

You my friend will regret this for the rest of your life...

[dangerous dan]

geez dont do it man, this is the the most thoughtless cycle iv come across this year, thats a very long cycle, and at 20yr old, 20% bodyfat & im guessing it could probably be higher.

Good luck with it...i have a feeling you will need it

[lovbyts]

We will see him before then due to estrogen problems among other I bet. Also not long after he stops he will wonder why he is still having problems and within a couple years be permanently on a cruise due to TRT after his gyno surgery.

I hope your country pays for all your medical, you will need it.

[dangerous dan]

[big_ron]

^^ yummy

[matt77]

Im not to young so please stop with that kind of shit.. You look up to arnold right?

I have conserd this cycle a while and will probly start in the end of september.

The thing is if you go on a Testo E cycle 12 weeks, it will take 6 month for your body to fully recover (the PCT is just a helping start it dosent make you fully recoverd.) I wanna go on a Testo E cycle for 12 weeks, then cruise on lower level for about 10 weeks, then go agian on a Testo E cycle for 12 weeks... It seems to me much better then start a PCT and go on agian 2 month later.. So maybe i have described it wrong, but its 2 cycle im going to go on with abit short cruise beetween.. 250mg e7d testo e isent a high level imo...

Clen+effedrin is for helping to lose bodyfat on my second cycle and winnar (winstrol) will I blast with the last 8 weeks.

My PCT will be on Nolva and some hCG, but do you guys think its good to use clomid also?

/BiggeriBoom

Guys he clearly is here to educate us not the other way around. I think he wants us to listen to his many years of wisdom.

I know your not gonna listen kid but I'll jump on a say your not even close to being ready for AAS. Your age and knowledge is lacking by a few years worth.

[wormwood]

Im not to young so please stop with that kind of shit.. You look up to arnold right?

I have conserd this cycle a while and will probly start in the end of september.

The thing is if you go on a Testo E cycle 12 weeks, it will take 6 month for your body to fully recover (the PCT is just a helping start it dosent make you fully recoverd.) I wanna go on a Testo E cycle for 12 weeks, then cruise on lower level for about 10 weeks, then go agian on a Testo E cycle for 12 weeks... It seems to me much better then start a PCT and go on agian 2 month later.. So maybe i have described it wrong, but its 2 cycle im going to go on with abit short cruise beetween.. 250mg e7d testo e isent a high level imo...

Clen+effedrin is for helping to lose bodyfat on my second cycle and winnar (winstrol) will I blast with the last 8 weeks.

My PCT will be on Nolva and some hCG, but do you guys think its good to use clomid also?

/BiggeriBoom

That's the thing...if you continue cruising without allowing your body to recover, you might never recover, genius.

[Undercover]

best post ever

[PistolStarta]

cruising is just such a bad term, it makes it sound like your hormones are stable.

[totti5871]

im 22 .. did my 1st cycle at 20.... and have done 1 cycle since... my dick has never completely recovered ... its not completely dead,... but never been like wat it was b4 my 1st cycle. that was off a 6 week and 12 week cycle.. how u wanna do 38 week cycle at the age of 20 ?!?!?!
no1 is disagreeing that ur not gonna look good.. but every1 is agreeing that ur gonna do permanent damage and regret it for life ... but u seem arrogant enough to think ull b ok... so up2 u ?

[wormwood]

im 22 .. did my 1st cycle at 20.... and have done 1 cycle since... my dick has never completely recovered ... its not completely dead,... but never been like wat it was b4 my 1st cycle. that was off a 6 week and 12 week cycle.. how u wanna do 38 week cycle at the age of 20 ?!?!?!
no1 is disagreeing that ur not gonna look good.. but every1 is agreeing that ur gonna do permanent damage and regret it for life ... but u seem arrogant enough to think ull b ok... so up2 u ?

Did you run a PCT?

[Superhero d-bolman]

i would never ever do a 38 week cycle... It could take years to fully recover your hpta, and by that time you would of lost all your gains. the most ever weeks a man should ever and i mean ever do is 16 weeks. Also by 12th week your gains begin to lower substantially, by the the 16th week if not sooner you'd only be gaining as fast as if u were training natty.

[shennen]

Why would i be joking? Many people are on testo 10 years... 250mg e7d isent a big amount.. and i thinks it better to stay on it then go on a PCT feel bad a while and then go on agian when the body isent fully recoverd

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This is just sad =(

There are many many good threads on this site, sometimes its hard to find them though. Id suggest starting with the ones that say IMPORTANT at the top of every section. Then play around with the search function and between now and your supposed start date in september...educate yourself on this topic. If your future and body mean nothing to you, ignore all the good points given here and do your own thing.

[wormwood]

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This is just sad =(

There are many many good threads on this site, sometimes its hard to find them though. Id suggest starting with the ones that say IMPORTANT at the top of every section. Then play around with the search function and between now and your supposed start date in september...educate yourself on this topic. If your future and body mean nothing to you, ignore all the good points given here and do your own thing.

Sadly...I doubt that this kid is coming back..

[SnaX]

Lol, a true piece of work. Sounds like he has made up his mind.

It is unfortunate that he is going to become a statistic, and steroids are going to get more of a bad rep. After all, it will be the steroids fault, and not his own stupidity.

This younger generation simply lacks patience and common sense and intelligence and the ability to identify that this is a 'run-on sentence'.

It also saddens me, the OP doesn't realize that in 10 months he will not have his Arnie physique. That fact, and the fact that he'll be dead in less than that also saddens me. Sad sad story.

[totti5871]

Did you run a PCT?

didnt run pct after my 1st cycle.. as i hadnt done any research and didnt know the dangers. 1st was a cycle of cypionate. 5 weeks..
2nd cycle was 12 weeks test enanthate/ 10 week tren. i did pct, hcg and nolva.
wen i say iv had problems with my dick its nothing serious. i got a gf and i can get it up weneva need be, just not as horny as i used to be :P lol

[tonythetiger1988]

LMAO thinking about it... im not even horny anymore since i started hahaha. ALSO 38weeks.... i dont even know how your twig an berries will be functional...

[zoltans4]

I know ED is defiantly a problem here, but at 20% bf and 38 weeks of test I am concerned for what his liver panel is gonna look like. Gonna need a triple bypass for the cholestorol and get on the liver transplant list.

[Tev123]

Hi, im strongly considering going on my first AAS cycle and a long one. Im 20 years old, 98kg, 190cm and a bf around 20%

I think its time to strongly disconsider this cycle, dude i researched for 3 years before jumping in and it was only for 6 weeks. running 38 weeks for your first....?

whoever helped you with this cycle or advised you on this needs a good back hand!

[Necrosaro]

Let me remind everyone not to feed the troll, someone that stupid to say something like that is stupid enough to be a troll. If he is very serious about it then he is in very serious trouble!

[jojomcgo]

Im not to young so please stop with that kind of shit.. You look up to arnold right?

I have conserd this cycle a while and will probly start in the end of september.

The thing is if you go on a Testo E cycle 12 weeks, it will take 6 month for your body to fully recover (the PCT is just a helping start it dosent make you fully recoverd.) I wanna go on a Testo E cycle for 12 weeks, then cruise on lower level for about 10 weeks, then go agian on a Testo E cycle for 12 weeks... It seems to me much better then start a PCT and go on agian 2 month later.. So maybe i have described it wrong, but its 2 cycle im going to go on with abit short cruise beetween.. 250mg e7d testo e isent a high level imo...

Clen+effedrin is for helping to lose bodyfat on my second cycle and winnar (winstrol) will I blast with the last 8 weeks.

My PCT will be on Nolva and some hCG, but do you guys think its good to use clomid also?

/BiggeriBoom

WOW im not even going to get in to what your talking about cause HP has told you whats up! But i will say im from cali and a fan of ARNOLD and there's a few problems with your thinking there
1) arnold had heart sergery not too long ago
2)arnolds had more then one operation.
3)to my knowlage i have never heard of arnold doing high dosage of aas for over a year as a matter of fact he went back and said when him and some other pro bb where taking dbol they where only taking 20-30mg of dbol a day with great results because they had the foundation all ready there and IMO i don't think just by the way your talking your any where near the shape arnold was in when he was 20.

[HawaiianPride.]

I start the cycle in the end of the september, see you guys in 10 month with the results.

/BiggeriBoom

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

There's no use in posting in this thread anymore fellas. The child has his stubborn/uneducated mindset already.

[Numb uK]

I doubt you'll be able to see your penis in 10 months. I was always told; don't try to run before you've learned to walk.

[gregghowie]

38 weeks of no booze...forget the PCT your social is looking real good!

[Numb uK]

38 weeks of no booze...forget the PCT your social is looking real good!

Lol, I like your style! Looking at the bigger picture huh?