First cycle: Test and deca

[TheStrand]

Hey, I have planned out my first cycle as such. My goal is to reach 225lbs by January in order to win 2012 nationals. Advice will be very much appreciated

Stats- 5ft11", 190 lbs, 23, 10%Bf

First Cycle:

Week 1-12:
200mg deca
500mg test E

PCT
Day 1 300mgs clomid, 20mg nolva
Day 2 - 30 100mgs clomid, 20mg nolva
Day 31 - 37 20mg nolva


And it was recommended to me to use deca alone for the first 3 weeks of the cycle. What are the advantages and disadvantages to this?

[Sector]

Test only for your first cycle is the way to go and 200mg Deca is a very low dose...

PCT looks a bit unconventional as well.

[meat&2veg]

From what I have read and been told you are not running enough deca, should be at least 400mg p/w for 10 weeks and run your test for 2 weeks after.

PCT is overkill...You are front-loading!

Clomid - 100/50/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/20/20

I would not do deca alone either...

[Reed]

You mean NPC Nationals??? as a bodybuilder?

[TheStrand]

From what I have read and been told you are not running enough deca, should be at least 400mg p/w for 10 weeks and run your test for 2 weeks after.

PCT is overkill...You are front-loading!

Clomid - 100/50/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/20/20

I would not do deca alone either...

Thanks for the advice. The PCT you recommend, is that week 1/week 2/etc?

400mg Deca for 10 weeks
500mg test for 12 weeks

Why would you run test after deca and not deca for 3 weeks before?

[Raziel]

Thanks for the advice. The PCT you recommend, is that week 1/week 2/etc?

400mg Deca for 10 weeks
500mg test for 12 weeks

Why would you run test after deca and not deca for 3 weeks before?

the deca is a very long estered compound, in fact i believe that one injection will still present relativly stable blood values after 10 days post injection. This is why you run your test 2 weeks longer than the deca, if you stopped them at the same time, the test would stop before the deca and side effects would most likely present. Also, You dont want to start your PCT until 2 weeks after you are done with the test enanthate. deca needs to be run @ least 400 mgs a week for at least 12 weeks to be effective so your cycle shoudl be roughly looking like this:

Deca: 400mg weeks 1-12
Test E: 400mg weeks 1-14

PCT starts week 16 and on, I would use clomid and nolva since deca is so supressive.