Finising Cycle

[MIhoops22]

Hey Guys,

I just did my last shot of 500mgs of Test Cyp. I have run for 15 weeks with only that compound. I want to run some winni tabs now, and I know most people probably run winni with the test but it wasn't an option for me.

I just finished a few days ago and I am going to start winni in the next few days 50mgs a day 30 days. My question is can I run clomid while on the winni or do I have to wait until I am done? My concern is that I am supposed to start the clomid two weeks after the last injection of Test, but since I have finished it and just now starting winni, would it be in best interest to still start the clomid in two weeks while on the Winni? Or wait until all compounds are done, it just seems like being off Test that long with no clomid wouldn't help.

Also I plan on doing to Gaspari Novedex XT and was wondering when to add that as well. Any Thoughts?

I appreciate any thoughts!

[scotty51312]

the answer to your question is no you shouldn't run any PCT on winni and no you shouldn't run winny without test. Gaspari novedex xt is useless for PCT of AAS. Run clomid and nolva standard PCT (you can read up in the PCT forum) Save winny for another cycle and wait another 20 weeks before you cycle again. What are your stats?
age?
height?
weight?
bodyfat?
cycle experience?

[MIhoops22]

Well the reason I wanted to run the winni at the end was to harden up and maintain gains, from what I have read and heard it helps with that. As for the other, I only was going to use the Gaspari to help kickstart after the clomid. I chose that route cause I didnt want to run HCG bc tired of injection and ease. I should be ablto to start winni tomorrow and my last 500mg of cyp was Sunday.
My stats are:
Age: 29
Height: 5 foot 11
Weight: 225 lbs
bodyfat: 8-9%

I have been running 1 to 2 cycles per year for 5 years, mostly for powerlifting.

[scotty51312]

if you run winni with your PCT you're basically wasting your PCT chems and the money you spent on them. Not a responsible way to cycle. you're test production is shut down. after your cycle and that should be your only concern "getting your natural test production back as quickly as possible" Winni will only delay the process. Toss out the gaspari crap its a waste of money IMO. Buy some real nolvadex to run with your clomid. Then save your winny for next time. Or don't. Its your body

[HawaiianPride.]

Scotty is on point.

It would be counter productive to run a steroid when you are striving for recovery.

As already mentioned, keep the Winstrol with the parent hormone. The furthest I would extend it past the Test is when the esters are dropping off (or in other words, pre-PCT).

Did you run HCG at all?

[MIhoops22]

no HCG, I have never really had to run a PCT outside of some Nolvadex and or Clomid. My levels has always come back fast, I only do 1 to 2 cycles per year and usually only test. I have two weeks left of Cyp being present in body why not run the winni for those two weeks at least, then start the clomid? I mean my initial thought is the winni would help me come off slowly and still keep me anabolic with all the other advantages of winni.

[HawaiianPride.]

What's the point? I doubt you'll get anything noticeable out of 2 weeks worth of Winstrol, but that's your call.

17 weeks on exogenous test calls for HCG stimulation. You might want to consider it.

[MIhoops22]

Well at this point I don't have access to HCG, but do have clen. Any thoughts to make up for lack of HCG?

[MIhoops22]

I mean clomid, I do have clomid, but not access to HCG at this time. Any thoughts to make up for HCG?