Tren for 2nd cycle??

[bugsysiegals]

I've taken 4 prohormone cycles (Methl-1-Alpha and XTren) in the past and have a few injections left before I'm finished with my first "real" cycle.

My source has a deal on some TTX 4Hundred right now, also a hybrid from the same manufacturer as the Sus4Fifty, and am wondering whether or not I should grab some now while it's on sale for my next cycle or if I should wait until I have a hard time making gains on a regular cycle before using Tren.

My first cycle consisted of 4 pills/day of XTren for weeks 1- 6, along with 720mg of Sus 4Fifty for weeks 1-12. I was going to run it at 450 per week but I wanted to make big gains and figured since I already used the prohormones in the past my body would be able to handle it. I experienced zero sides on this cycle.

After 7 weeks I had put on an additional 16 pounds. I switched to my second vial of Sus between weeks 6 and 7. I didn't see any additional gains for a few weeks after stopping the XTren at week 6. About 3 weeks after switching to my second vial I started breaking out with pimples badly on the forearms and back. People actually started asking me about my forearms which was embarassing. I also didn't make any significant gains in strength like I thought I would until this time as well.

The first vial I used had damage to the upper ring around it like a pliers had squeezed it on both sides. Whenever I opened the container I kept it in I could smell it pretty strongly; however, no fluid was ever leaking. I'm wondering if somehow the hormone crashed from a small opening and the entire first 6 weeks of injections was doing nothing at all for me. Is this possible? I mean I didn't feel any different, made minimal strength gains, and didn't break out with pimples at all.

It wasn't until a few weeks into the 2nd vial that I started getting pimples, breaking out bad, and making notable strength gains every week. In total I've gained about 20 pounds and lost some fat as well. So I really didn't gain much after 7 weeks but I bet if the 1st vial wasn't any good that by the time the 2nd vial kicked in it was to near the end of the cycle and to late to make big gains. I still don't feel any on cycle feeling but definitely feel much stronger and don't need as much rest between sets.

I'm sad I have to quit now and wait another 6 months to start my next cycle. I still want to put on another 35 pounds from where I am now before I'll be content with where I'm at so I'm wondering if I should run Tren for my next cycle which may get me much closer to my goal then the Sus 4Fifty or if I should stick with what I have or something else similar until I can't make the 20+ pound gains any longer. I'm not sure if jumping on Tren would mean that if I ever went back to something else that I wouldn't be able to make the gains due to tolerance, etc.

BTW, the reason I went with Sus 4Fifty over Test Enanthate was because I could only get 250mg per vial for the price I got 450mg per vial of Sus for. I figured why pay twice the price; however, I'm not sure if I would have made more gains with straight Test E versus the Sus since the Sus has all these other strains that may not be as good at putting on mass as Test E or C. Any thoughts?

P.S. I was injecting EOD and switching between quads and glutes. I had my gf shoot me in the glutes since I wasn't able to reach back and do it myself without moving the needle all over the place. I wouldn't mind twice a week injections although I really got used to pinning myself and am going to miss it. It kind of gave me the mental feeling and reminder of what I was doing and to work hard and stay consistent with everything. If I continue with something that is EOD or ED I'd like to find another place to pin since I don't like relying on someone else to pin me. Does anyone think the Sus 4Fifty is just as good at building mass as straight Test E or C? I'm just wondering if I should stick with it for next cycle or not if I don't jump to Tren.



Stats: 33, 5'8", 200lbs.



Sus 4Fifty - 75mg Testosterone Propionate, 75mg Testosterone Phenylpionate, 100mg Testosterone Isocaproate, 100mg Testosterone Decanoate, and 100mg Testosterone Cypionate

TTX 4Hundred - 150mg Trenbolone Enanthate and 250mg Testosterone Enanthate.

[desizon]

I've taken 4 prohormone cycles (Methl-1-Alpha and XTren) in the past and have a few injections left before I'm finished with my first "real" cycle.

My source has a deal on some TTX 4Hundred right now, also a hybrid from the same manufacturer as the Sus4Fifty, and am wondering whether or not I should grab some now while it's on sale for my next cycle or if I should wait until I have a hard time making gains on a regular cycle before using Tren.

My first cycle consisted of 4 pills/day of XTren for weeks 1- 6, along with 720mg of Sus 4Fifty for weeks 1-12. I was going to run it at 450 per week but I wanted to make big gains and figured since I already used the prohormones in the past my body would be able to handle it. I experienced zero sides on this cycle.

After 7 weeks I had put on an additional 16 pounds. I switched to my second vial of Sus between weeks 6 and 7. I didn't see any additional gains for a few weeks after stopping the XTren at week 6. About 3 weeks after switching to my second vial I started breaking out with pimples badly on the forearms and back. People actually started asking me about my forearms which was embarassing. I also didn't make any significant gains in strength like I thought I would until this time as well.

The first vial I used had damage to the upper ring around it like a pliers had squeezed it on both sides. Whenever I opened the container I kept it in I could smell it pretty strongly; however, no fluid was ever leaking. I'm wondering if somehow the hormone crashed from a small opening and the entire first 6 weeks of injections was doing nothing at all for me. Is this possible? I mean I didn't feel any different, made minimal strength gains, and didn't break out with pimples at all.

It wasn't until a few weeks into the 2nd vial that I started getting pimples, breaking out bad, and making notable strength gains every week. In total I've gained about 20 pounds and lost some fat as well. So I really didn't gain much after 7 weeks but I bet if the 1st vial wasn't any good that by the time the 2nd vial kicked in it was to near the end of the cycle and to late to make big gains. I still don't feel any on cycle feeling but definitely feel much stronger and don't need as much rest between sets.

I'm sad I have to quit now and wait another 6 months to start my next cycle. I still want to put on another 35 pounds from where I am now before I'll be content with where I'm at so I'm wondering if I should run Tren for my next cycle which may get me much closer to my goal then the Sus 4Fifty or if I should stick with what I have or something else similar until I can't make the 20+ pound gains any longer. I'm not sure if jumping on Tren would mean that if I ever went back to something else that I wouldn't be able to make the gains due to tolerance, etc.

BTW, the reason I went with Sus 4Fifty over Test Enanthate was because I could only get 250mg per vial for the price I got 450mg per vial of Sus for. I figured why pay twice the price; however, I'm not sure if I would have made more gains with straight Test E versus the Sus since the Sus has all these other strains that may not be as good at putting on mass as Test E or C. Any thoughts?

P.S. I was injecting EOD and switching between quads and glutes. I had my gf shoot me in the glutes since I wasn't able to reach back and do it myself without moving the needle all over the place. I wouldn't mind twice a week injections although I really got used to pinning myself and am going to miss it. It kind of gave me the mental feeling and reminder of what I was doing and to work hard and stay consistent with everything. If I continue with something that is EOD or ED I'd like to find another place to pin since I don't like relying on someone else to pin me. Does anyone think the Sus 4Fifty is just as good at building mass as straight Test E or C? I'm just wondering if I should stick with it for next cycle or not if I don't jump to Tren.



Stats: 33, 5'8", 200lbs.



Sus 4Fifty - 75mg Testosterone Propionate, 75mg Testosterone Phenylpionate, 100mg Testosterone Isocaproate, 100mg Testosterone Decanoate, and 100mg Testosterone Cypionate

TTX 4Hundred - 150mg Trenbolone Enanthate and 250mg Testosterone Enanthate.

Sale's a sale. Get some for later on. Stick with the SUS450. Shoot EOD at least, due to prop. if you like pinning, shoot ED.

[Ernst]

Holy crap. How about the short version?

I'd avoid that brand/blend. That's all I'll say about that. I'm not here to start a pissing match with anyone over it.

Test is test is test. Sust is just as decent a mass builder as any other test.

2nd cycle: test + one. Pick another compound if you like or simply run test again. Tren is not appropriate for a second cycle. Just overkill.

[bugsysiegals]

Hmmm ... I hate relying on the potency/quality of something someone else mixed and would prefer to mix my own. I've heard of two powder sources but not sure if they're g2g. I know you cant mention sources here but what if i only mention a portion of the name to see if someone else can vouch for them?

[Ernst]

Don't.

See the rules in the stickies on source checks if you are interested in getting one checked here from a mod.

You don't even have enough posts to PM yet and you've been here since '06? Wow.

[boz]

He been in hibernation lol

[Johnyonemove]

Sleeper Cell!

[bugsysiegals]

I don't know why it would say 06 because I just joined this year. Weird.