First time user - In search of advice "TNT - Test n Trenbolone"

[Viho]

Anabolic steroid, "TNT - Test n Trenbolone".

I would greatly appreciate serveral people that fully understand anabolic steriods to take the time to read through my biography and give me some pointers, facts and help on what I am going to be putting into my body.

Note: This is my first time taking injections and I am only an ameture but I am taking the time to learn as much as possible before I start my first cycle. As of now I know that its called "TNT - Test n Trenbolone" and I should only need 1 cycle to reach my goals.

What im here to ask is:
1. How many injections would I need to take through 1 cycle.
2. How much mL ect. of injections each time, where and when.
3. Work out cycle
4. Any other suppliments I should be taking with this.
5. Types of needles 22G or 1-1/2''?
6. Any tips or extra info aswell.

Age 21
Height 6'0''
Weight 165-175 lbs
Bf% 8-12%
Cycle history (about to start tnt "x" amount of cycles)
Years training 1-2 off and on

-I work out 2-3 times a week, 30-45 minutes/everything but legs since I walk enough.
-High metabolism

"Im pretty much average in all aspects and never had 1 health related problem".

Goals:
-185-200 lbs
-mass/tone/cut

I read up on side effects and the only ones that are holding me back are:
Liver tumors
Depression
Lack of sleep
Acne on face
Penis shrinkage
Any others I should be aware of or are these just from a small % of users?

I appreciate your help ahead of time folks.
Thanks

[shennen]

You wont get advice on how to cycle here as you are under 25. There's a lotta great info here though, and for your own benefit, you should read all the important stickies and then some. You're not cycle ready, and doin so would be a mistake. Give your body a few more years to finish developing, or you'll deal with much worse than the sides you are worried about.

[Br0dy69]

Welcome to the boards. Tip #1 Stop being lazy, read the threads stickied at the top of the page. Nobodys going to do the work for you. Tip #2 You're way to young, with good diet and training you can achieve your goals without AAS. You will harm yourself. Tip #3 Nobody will help you out, they'll simply tell you you're to young.

Knowledge is power, look around at the boards and get yourself educated.

[Ilivetolift83]

I know it's sounds like ppl in here r dicks sometimes bro but they r only looking out for u... U seem to have thought about this alot and u gave us all ur info too which is good. But but but not trying to be harsh but #1 u r a littleyoung( ppl have done it younger, but if u concerned about health wait) #2 u r pretty light dude ( u could gain 20-30 lbs in 3-4 years or more of hard training and proper diet)#3 u only been working out a very short time and not cRonsistantly either( ur workouts r not setup for gaining muscle either, circuit training for 45 mins is not alot especially only 2-3 times a week)..# 4 if u do this cycle and then stop and keep up it current diet and training u will lose everything u gained and maybe more...... Plz bro start eating and training like u want to be 200 cut, then in a couple years when u have a great base and hopefully a better understanding of aas then u can decide to do it or not.
Plz understand I'm not trying to be a asshole, just giving u the benifit of our exp...
Ur q is somewhat vague also, what is the strength of ur TNT per ml? And the ratio? All ur qs at the top of ur post can be answered by reading all stickies.... I know it's boring but if u wanna juice u need all that info!!
Good luck in whatever u decide!!

[redz]

Too young, too small, too in-experienced, Tren is not for first timers. You need to train and reaserch diet more than anything.

[Viho]

I appreciate the replys, I am in-experienced and I would have went through with my cycle without informing anyone if I havent come on this forum and asked.

Now, if I get experienced and grow to 200 lbs what would be wrong with starting a cycle, stateing that I am fully developed as a 25 year old would be.

I dont understand how people say too small, steroids are taken to get big and I do understand a boundary say if I was 120 lbs, but I am decent sized and the main verdict that pushed me towards steroids was to gain weight/mass and get cut while not having to push as hard at the gym and getting results because I do not have alot of time in my busy lifestyle.

e/ This is a forum and its here to ask questions like this for the new guy. I understand if some of you are trying to look out for me but I wont be touching anything until I fully understand it all, thats #1 to me as of joining this site. so please dont flame my threads. Simple answers to my questions is a great help.

(I am reading the stickies and random threads on the lines of my situation, this post was posted just to see what kind of answers I can come up with in the meantime, and again, i appreciate everyones opinions and answers).

[upperhandy]

i think you have a lot of misconceptions about aas... i had a very similar physique to you (given your stats) and was able to achieve the goals you are thinking about without the use of aas... it is a matter of diet and training

your diet needs work, obviously. even if you did do a cycle i guarantee you that you will be exactly where you started 3months after you were done with the cycle, because you don't know how/when/what to eat.

your training needs work, obviously. no legs.... seriously. that is the most important muscle group.

and i can tell you from experience that the penis shrinkage thing is a bi*ch.
i've done so many cycles i don't have anything left... i mean it's like a mini-shrimp cocktail down there... lol

do some research and laugh with me...

[Viho]

"your diet needs work, obviously. even if you did do a cycle i guarantee you that you will be exactly where you started 3months after you were done with the cycle, because you don't know how/when/what to eat."

If I gained knowlegde on how to properly maintain my diet while on my cycle or off I can guarentee you I wont drop down to my base statistics I started at. Once I see results or even when Ive gotten results ive kept that motivation of keeping up with my physiq, aas is going to be a boost for me to gain quick and easy weight/mass/cut/tone ect. and then ill be sticking to that physiq and working/keeping up to that pace along the way.

No disrespect but im asking how to maintain a good diet for my weight with or without the use of aas, im not looking for jerk off comments on me being a newb to this type of material im trying to be taught. So if you have some random comment or just posting completly unusable information, I suggest you keep it to yourself.

Im getting the idea that I need a better diet, leg work, age and more weight before I even think about touching a cycle.
Any links or information of these areas I need to work on would be great help.

Thanks again.

[Sfla80]

-I work out 2-3 times a week, 30-45 minutes/everything but legs since I walk enough.


LMAO ^^^^

[Viho]

-I work out 2-3 times a week, 30-45 minutes/everything but legs since I walk enough.


LMAO ^^^^

I appreciate the replys, I am in-experienced and I would have went through with my cycle without informing anyone if I havent come on this forum and asked.

Now, if I get experienced and grow to 200 lbs what would be wrong with starting a cycle, stateing that I am fully developed as a 25 year old would be.

I dont understand how people say too small, steroids are taken to get big and I do understand a boundary say if I was 120 lbs, but I am decent sized and the main verdict that pushed me towards steroids was to gain weight/mass and get cut while not having to push as hard at the gym and getting results because I do not have alot of time in my busy lifestyle.

e/ This is a forum and its here to ask questions like this for the new guy. I understand if some of you are trying to look out for me but I wont be touching anything until I fully understand it all, thats #1 to me as of joining this site. so please dont flame my threads. Simple answers to my questions is a great help.

(I am reading the stickies and random threads on the lines of my situation, this post was posted just to see what kind of answers I can come up with in the meantime, and again, i appreciate everyones opinions and answers).

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I think its about time to do an off cycle of grade school english and simple common sense strategies.

[Kdub]

If you don't wish to train your legs that is your decision and up to you. We have no idea what your leg development is like or what your real goals are.

My suggestion is to spend 100-200 hours reading here on the forum - 1 hour a day over the next 3-6 months - to really get an idea of what you are about to get yourself into.

As far as your age goes, would you really run the risk of serious damage to your overall health (HPTA shutdown, fused growth plates, etc...) for just one cycle and 25 lbs of which you could very well do naturally if you put the time and effort into learning what it actually takes to build your body to achieve the goals you have laid out?

And you say you only will do just one cycle? Anyone else heard of this before???

[upperhandy]

look... it's like i said
you have a misunderstanding of aas
i'm glad you are considering not taking aas

when you are on aas the weight comes easy. you don't even have to change your diet and the weight comes on.
but
if you don't change your diet (the one you are eating now to look the way you look now) when you come off the juice, the weight will go as fast as it came

diet (even for a novice and especially for the professionals) is one of the hardest aspects of training. you really need to eat way more food than you think you need and only the right food.

i can guarantee you that if you dial in your diet you will begin to quickly see the gains you are seeking on aas, and these gains will stay around as long as you have the dedication to train and eat correctly

learn how to eat in the diet section: start here: \

you also need to be working out 45m-1h 2-3x per week
if you can't dedicate this much time to your health and physique aas would never help you anyway

below is a novice level workout (not beginner)
Workout1:
bench press,
incline press,
pullovers
Chin ups 50x,
bent over rows
deadlifts
Abs-crunches 5 sets 25 reps

Workout 2
clean and press,
dumbell lateral raises
heavy upright rows
push presses
standing barbell curls,
seated dumbell curls close grip bench,
standing tricep extensions
wrist curls, reverse wrist curls
Abs- reverse crunches, 5 sets of 25 reps

Workout 3
squats
,lunges,
leg curls
standing calf raises- 5 sets of 25 reps
straight leg deadlifts
good mornings
abs crunches 5 sets of 25 reps

for all exercises 4 sets including a warm up set

good luck

[upperhandy]

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[Viho]

Over the next few months im going to be putting in some time to find the right diet/routine for myself to reach the goals im trying to accomplish off my cycle because I need to start somewhere (Probably going to take a peek at the type of diet/routine I'll need to keep up on if I were to take a cycle aswell, @ BroDy69 & Kdub "Knowledge is power, look around at the boards and get yourself educated".

Understood and appreciated.

@upperhandy

you also need to be working out 45m-1h 2-3x per week
if you can't dedicate this much time to your health and physique aas would never help you anyway

below is a novice level workout (not beginner)
Workout1:
bench press,
incline press,
pullovers
Chin ups 50x,
bent over rows
deadlifts
Abs-crunches 5 sets 25 reps

Workout 2
clean and press,
dumbell lateral raises
heavy upright rows
push presses
standing barbell curls,
seated dumbell curls close grip bench,
standing tricep extensions
wrist curls, reverse wrist curls
Abs- reverse crunches, 5 sets of 25 reps

Workout 3
squats
,lunges,
leg curls
standing calf raises- 5 sets of 25 reps
straight leg deadlifts
good mornings
abs crunches 5 sets of 25 reps

for all exercises 4 sets including a warm up set

This is what im going to be tied down to for the next few months, along with a solid diet that im going to be locked on once I obtain a better unstanding of what and how to eat.

Question, is there safe suppliments I could be taking to better help me along the way?
weight gain/mass/cut/tone, I pick up WHEY protine 5LBS on the regular because of PWO nutrition.

Thanks ladies and gents.
I'll be posting my status regularly to better have an idea where im getting at.

[redz]

BCAA's are good to add as well as a good multi vitamin. Also maybe some casein protein for before bed.

[Superhero d-bolman]

nevermind

[Viho]

BCAA's are good to add as well as a good multi vitamin. Also maybe some casein protein for before bed.

Im heading to edge nutrition tomorrow to pick up some more WHEY protien. (If anyone knows of some other good suppliments, feel free to share them with me along with a description).
Can you give me a couple names of some solid multivitamins?