t3 and tren

[anadroljack]

do you need to take t3 with your tren acetate.thanks for the help.

[iceman86]

No you need test with tren

[magic32]

He’s referring to an obscure citation within the Tren profile (specifically reference #23 – a study involving castrated male sheep) from which Anthony derived Tren’s 55% reduction in total T3 within plasma [SEE BELOW] and accurately corrects the problem by recommending its supplementation.

It was in fact, ‘impeccable’ research on AR’s part in bringing this to light, because of which I’d say the answer to your question is “yes” it would definitely be wise to supplement T3 with Tren for optimal functioning, though not imperative.

Res Vet Sci. 1981 Jan;30(1):7-13.

Growth hormone, insulin, prolactin and total thyroxine in the plasma of sheep implanted with the anabolic steroid trenbolone acetate alone or with oestradiol.
Donaldson IA, Hart IC, Heitzman RJ.

Abstract
The mode of action of the anabolic steroid trenbolone acetate (19-norandrost-4,9,11-trien-3-one-17-acetate) was studied through the endogenous hormonal response of castrated male sheep to subcutaneous implantation of 140 mg of trenbolone acetate and 20 mg of oestradiol both separately and in combination. Radioimmunoassay of delta-4,9,11-trienic steroids and oestradiol-17 beta in plasma confirmed that simultaneous administration of trenbolone acetate with oestradiol led to a significantly greater persistence of oestradiol-17 beta residues in plasma (P less than 0.05) than with implantation of oestradiol alone. Oestradiol treatment increased concentrations of growth hormone and insulin (P less than 0.05; P less than 0.001 respectively) in plasma samples collected weekly. Trenbolone acetate by itself had no significant effect and the oestrogenic response was blocked on the simultaneous implantation of trenbolone acetate and oestradiol (despite higher plasma levels of oestradiol-17 beta with this treatment). Plasma total thyroxine was markedly depressed to 45 per cent of its basal level by trenbolone acetate, alone or with oestradiol (P less than 0.001) and depressed to 80 per cent of basal by oestradiol treatment alone (P less than 0.001). Plasma prolactin was unaltered by the above treatments.
PMID: 7017853 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

[SlimJoe]

Test added would be a start

[magic32]

^^^I think that presumption is already made here.

[SlimJoe]

Sorry was answering the qurestion the guy asked didn't think of reading the full thread

[magic32]

Sorry was answering the qurestion the guy asked didn't think of reading the full thread

No worries.

[Swifto]

He’s referring to an obscure citation within the Tren profile (specifically reference #23 – a study involving castrated male sheep) from which Anthony derived Tren’s 55% reduction in total T3 within plasma [SEE BELOW] and accurately corrects the problem by recommending its supplementation.

It was in fact, ‘impeccable’ research on AR’s part in bringing this to light, because of which I’d say the answer to your question is “yes” it would definitely be wise to supplement T3 with Tren for optimal functioning, though not imperative.

I'm not disagreeing, but have you seen any data on Tren lowering T3 in humans magic?

[magic32]

Great question Swift, because I didn't elaborate but will take that opportunity now.

Nope, I don't even have cross-referenced additional animal studies. I'm going strictly off AR's SINGULAR citation which was the cusp of his question. However, it’s well known that sheep physiological interventions like those of mice, are readily transferable to humans.

To me the bottom-line is the most important thing, and in this particular case (adding T3 to a presumably cutting cycle) is always a good idea whether it’s counter-acting an alleged deficiency from a single study, or simply additive in that it’ll augment burning helping him achieve his goal. So either way (in this case) it’s sound, but again based on the limited data/sourcing, obviously not imperative.

[anadroljack]

wow good thread.