Prop/Cypionate/Deca suggestions for cycle please

[Viggo]

The following is a list of gear that I picked up for a friend...really I'm serious. He may not give me the cash, so I may own it soon enough.

20ml Test Propionate @ 100mg/ml
20ml Test Cypionate @ 200mg/ml
20ml Deca Durabolin @ 200mg/ml
1,500mg Tamoxifen

I think a tremendous cycle can be made of this stack.
Would appreciate your input

Thanks guys

[Viggo]

no takers on this one?

[D7M]

Stats and cycle history?

[MBMETC]

The following is a list of gear that I picked up for a friend...really I'm serious. He may not give me the cash, so I may own it soon enough.

20ml Test Propionate @ 100mg/ml
20ml Test Cypionate @ 200mg/ml
20ml Deca Durabolin @ 200mg/ml
1,500mg Tamoxifen

think a tremendous cycle can be made of this stack. I
Would appreciate your input

Thanks guys

then provide your stats and outline a cycle for critique

[Viggo]

Alright, here goes...

203 lbs
5'10"
12% bf
39 yrs
Lifting off/on since HS. Seriously last 4 yrs.
excellent diet
competed NPC BB events twice in past 3 yrs.
First AAS cycle summer 2009. (Boldenone 12wks)
Finishing 12th wk of second AAS cycle now. (500mg Sust + 200mg Deca / wk). Will begin pct in 1 week (same pct as outlined below).

Again, here is the gear I have on-hand:
20ml Test Propionate @ 100mg/ml
20ml Test Cypionate @ 200mg/ml
20ml Deca Durabolin @ 200mg/ml
1,500mg Tamoxifen
(Would have to add Stane and HCG as well)


Wks 1-3 (days 1-20):
Prop 100mg ed
Deca 200mg 2xwk
HCG 200iu e3d
Exemestane 12.5mg eod

Wks 3-8:
Test Cypionate 400mg 2xwk
Deca 200mg 2xwk
HCG 200iu e3d
Exemestane 12.5mg eod

1 wk off Test and Deca only.

Start 6wk pct:
Wks 1-3:
HCG 500iu ed/Exemestane 20mg ed/Tamoxifen 20mg ed
Wks 4-5:
Exemestane 20mg ed/Tamoxifen 20mg ed
Wk 6:
Tamoxifen 20mg ed


Although this is a shorter 8-wk plan + pct, do you believe 1200mg of anabolics/wk is excessive for my third cycle?
Thanks for the help in planning this out.

[Viggo]

No, that cycle plan will not work.
The short-estered Prop must be overlapped with the longer-estered Cypionate. Also, Test should be continued for two weeks after cessation of Deca.
I'm still working on it.

[MBMETC]

You would have to start with the cyp, it will still be in your system when you pick up with prop, deca is run 12
Weeks min for optimal results. So based on those principles I say no.

[Viggo]

Since Prop is short-estered, would it not be beneficial to use it as a frontload then gradually blend into the Cypionate?

[awesome1]

you would run out of test before optimal deca length if you did that.


you have enough for a good cycle. This is what I would suggest:

weeks 1-10: 400mg test cyp ew
week 11: 200-250mg of prop
week 12-14 or through 15: 375mg of prop
weeks 1-12: 330mg of deca

week 11 is the transition week from cyp to prop. The long estered cyp is still very active so only a low dose of prop should be required. You should have enough to extend to 15 weeks if you are careful with your gear.
prop has more test per mg than cyp which is why the prop is at 375 at then end instead of 400

[Far from massive]

Ok guys I am kinda new to this and also have some of all three ingrediants, here is what I would think would be a good approach if you wanted to combine the three.
Please explain why this is the wrong approach if it is.

Wks 1-11 300mg Deca ( stopping one week before the cyp to allow the deca some time to clear before stopping exogenous test) prefferably 150 twice per week, if not then 300 once per week.
Wks 1-12 400mg cyp- prefferably 200 twice per week, if not then 400 once per week.
Wk 1 prop at 250 wk
Wk 2 prop at 200 wk
Wk 3 prop at 175 wk
Wk 4 prop at 150 wk
Wk 5 prop at 75 wk

This way the prop dosage would first establish the blood level of test and then be lowered while the cyp was slowly building up the blood level so that the free test would stay fairly even throughout the 12 weeks.

Now let me point out this is if you were to run all three compounds, I certainly don't think this would be nessacary on a 3rd cycle and it would probably make a lot more sense just to run the Cyp and Deca together and allow them both to reach peak levels weeks 5-12 as this would be plenty of time and plenty of AAS for a 3rd cycle. However if you were determined to run all three or if you were dealing with a more advanced user it seems to me this method of front loading would be the best way to achieve big gains without the sides often accompanied by the sudden drop seen with front loading where you just use x compound at one set dosage for x amount of wks.

As I say this is just my thoughts and I am open to suggestions on why it might not be the way to go.

[Far from massive]

Too the OP sorry I see I left you short on cyp. If you wanted you could do 375 of the cyp wks 2-12 and just use 300 of the prop wks 1-2 instead of the cyp.

But like I said this is really more of a question on front loading than a suggestion as I do not have any experience here, please do not follow my advice unless some with more knowlege say it makes sense.