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    Advice on 2nd cycle..... Test E + Deca or EQ???

    Deca or Eq?!?!

    Im planning my second cycle to start at the end of jan and need advice on what to take with Test E?

    My first cycle i ran Test E @ 500mg/pw with Deca @ 100mg/pw, it went great with no sides and i gained about 20-25lbs.

    Ive been doing some research on Eq and its seems to give you good gains without so much water retention which i like the sound of! Can anyone give me any advice for or against?

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    Stats?

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    28 years old
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    about 15% body fat
    PCT clomid 100/100/50/50
    nolva 40/40/20/20

    cheers

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    If your first cycle went so well why not repeat for your second cycle??

    Also what was your starting weight before your first cycle??
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    I'm not opposed to taking Deca with the Test E again, I just like the idea of getting similar gains from Eq without the water retention. If I went with my first cycle again should I run it using the same dosage?

    I started my first cycle weighing roughly 160lbs

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    You need to spend sometime working on your diet mate..

    The water retention is caused by elevated estrogen so running an ai would solve that issue, stane at 12.5mgs eod works well for me.....

    Why not fix your diet then try a test only cycle, 500mgs every week with a good diet will give you great gains....
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    I agree with Matt. You say you gained 20-25lbs, you weigh 170 now, but started at 160. So by that alone, youve already lost 15lbs. That just puts in concrete that you didnt have the diet or a base in place to hold the gains you got (which you didnt by losing 15lbs). Im assuming youre adding in another compound or looking at others is bc you want more gains. But what you really need to be doing is getting your diet in check, thats obvious by your losses.

    Not the answer you wanted to hear im sure, but its reality.

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    nice quik math bro.
    Quote Originally Posted by vettewreck View Post
    I agree with Matt. You say you gained 20-25lbs, you weigh 170 now, but started at 160. So by that alone, youve already lost 15lbs. That just puts in concrete that you didnt have the diet or a base in place to hold the gains you got (which you didnt by losing 15lbs). Im assuming youre adding in another compound or looking at others is bc you want more gains. But what you really need to be doing is getting your diet in check, thats obvious by your losses.

    Not the answer you wanted to hear im sure, but its reality.

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    Thanks guys.

    I admit, my diet hasnt been as clean as it could be though that has now been rectified. I think im going to run a Test e cycle only at 500mg/pw and reaaly concentrate on a perfect diet. Would the 100mg of Deca p/w make much of a difference anyway?

    Also does my pct sound ok for the the cycle;

    clomid 100/100/50/50
    nolva 40/40/20/20

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