aspirated no blood but then...

[slimshady01]

Just did a glute shot "4th" shot ever. I pulled back a tad saw nothing but a tiny air bubble. "not sure how much im supposed to pull back". Pushed oil in nice and slow then removed the pin. As i was putting the cap back over the needle I saw a blood bubble in the tip of the syringe...

Was i in a vein? and perhaps i just didnt pull back far enough to see it until it was over?

I feel ok now.. ass is sore like it always is after i go in deep.

[Far from massive]

You probably passed through or nicked a vein on the way out and this is when the blood entered the syringe. If you were in a vein you would have had a bunch of blood when you aspirated and if you had injected into a vein you would have known it as you would have started coughing and had that wierd shitty dry taste in the back of your throat.

I finally nicked a vein close to my injection site I think, there was no blood but when I massaged the muscle all of a sudden I got that shitty taste and dry feeling in the back of the throat and then had a dry cough, I was able to stifle it and it was no big deal, in a way I am glad it happened as now I know what to expect and am not terrified of the monster any more LOL.

[slimshady01]

yeah i was waiting to start coughing but nothing.. its been 5 minutes so i think im fine.

How far do you guys pull back when you aspirate.. Also when i pulled the needle out there was no blood that followed out of the butt. nothing on my toilet paper that i use to massge the cheek for a good min.

weird

[Far from massive]

When you pull back the main thing is that you will feel a lot of resistance to movement of the plunger as you are creating a vacuum, if you are in a vein you will not feel nearly as much resistance and the needle will have a spiral of blood enter the syringe pretty quickly. I think if you try to pull back too far or for too long particularly when pinning the glutes you are more likely to move the syringe around in the muscle causing trauma and increasing the chance of the needle nicking a vein.

[slimshady01]

thanks massive.. I always have that hard to pull back feeling. Makes sense..

great forums

[Far from massive]

Glad to help,

Just remember when pinning the glutes make sure to only use the upper outer quarter of the ass cheek (thats the technical term for glute). I have heard a number of people recently saying they move around on glute shots or like to go into a different spot than the diagrams say for a variety of reasons. While the glute is an extremly safe place to pin and will hold a lot of juice, allows a deep injection and has very low pain, if you go into other areas of the glute you risk serious damage to the nerve or an arterial puncture the upper/outer is the only place thats safe.

Not saying I think you don't know this, really just posting it up for others who may be following the thread since it seems a lot of people do not understand this.

[slimshady01]

thanks brother,

[Tigershark]

This happened to me before too my first cycle and like you I did the right thing and came here for answers. Great guys here.

[Van Suka]

I've read a number of posts in regards to injections. Some pin in the glute while others pin in the bicept or other areas. Is there a reason for injecting in other muscles other than the glute? Does it matter where you inject?

[pwnflow]

Happened with me a couple of times to. Nothing to worry, all part of the game.

I've read a number of posts in regards to injections. Some pin in the glute while others pin in the bicept or other areas. Is there a reason for injecting in other muscles other than the glute? Does it matter where you inject?

Some shorter esters require more frequent injections (prop, ace) so they keep chaining injection site to minimize scar tissue. There is no reason to change sites if your injecting just once a week.

[bodybuilder]

It has happened to be a couple of times before. Aspired no blood but then as i go to cap the needle off i see a little bit of blood in the needle.

[MBMETC]

I've read a number of posts in regards to injections. Some pin in the glute while others pin in the bicept or other areas. Is there a reason for injecting in other muscles other than the glute? Does it matter where you inject?

some guy's simply find it difficult to pin glutes becuase of the turning to see a clear injection site

[Van Suka]

Turning? What do you mean? Are you referring to when you pull back?

[redz]

some guy's simply find it difficult to pin glutes becuase of the turning to see a clear injection site

I would fall in to that category I have only ever done quads, delts, and pec. Though the pec injection was brutal because I had some aweful TNT 450.

[Van Suka]

I would fall in to that category I have only ever done quads, delts, and pec. Though the pec injection was brutal because I had some aweful TNT 450.

TNT 450?. My apologies for my ignorance, I'm just rookie yet.

[Van Suka]

Happened with me a couple of times to. Nothing to worry, all part of the game.



Some shorter esters require more frequent injections (prop, ace) so they keep chaining injection site to minimize scar tissue. There is no reason to change sites if your injecting just once a week.

Okay, right...shorter esters don't stick around as long in the body, right? It sounds like the key is to hit muscle and reduce scar tissue.

[Far from massive]

Van suka,

You luv jumpin on top of threads you damn highjacker LOL.

Just giving you grief this time its the same subject no harm done. As far as your questions. The glutes are the deepest muscle on the average person and hold the most juice with the least pain, this and the relative safety of the area make it the go to spot for nurses etc. While glutes are great for others to administer shots, the turning refers to having to twist the body to look in the mirror to pin your own glute which can make it a pain in the ass (literally). The reasons for injecting in many areas is because you always want to wait as long as possible before pinning in the same area again to give the injection time to be absorbed, for this reason reachability and visability quads ( a misnomer actually its the vastus lateralis) are a favorite of most and are used along with glutes to allow you more spots for injection by using the glutes and a high and low spot (must be at least a hands width away from the knee or the hip) on the thigh you have a total of 6 spots to inject. After that once you build up some muscle the shoulder is a good location for shots 1cc and less, then you get into other more advanced locations like the biceps triceps pecs etc. most of these need to be pinned very carefully as minor mistakes in location and depth can have severe consequences. In addition if you have a small abscess in your glute or thigh and have to have it drained or lanced, the scar will not show that much, if the same thing happens to the bicep you stand a good chance of permanent disfigurment so stay away from spots like this until you are ready.

Im out...

FFM

[Van Suka]

Van suka,

You luv jumpin on top of threads you damn highjacker LOL.

Just giving you grief this time its the same subject no harm done. As far as your questions. The glutes are the deepest muscle on the average person and hold the most juice with the least pain, this and the relative safety of the area make it the go to spot for nurses etc. While glutes are great for others to administer shots, the turning refers to having to twist the body to look in the mirror to pin your own glute which can make it a pain in the ass (literally). The reasons for injecting in many areas is because you always want to wait as long as possible before pinning in the same area again to give the injection time to be absorbed, for this reason reachability and visability quads ( a misnomer actually its the vastus lateralis) are a favorite of most and are used along with glutes to allow you more spots for injection by using the glutes and a high and low spot (must be at least a hands width away from the knee or the hip) on the thigh you have a total of 6 spots to inject. After that once you build up some muscle the shoulder is a good location for shots 1cc and less, then you get into other more advanced locations like the biceps triceps pecs etc. most of these need to be pinned very carefully as minor mistakes in location and depth can have severe consequences. In addition if you have a small abscess in your glute or thigh and have to have it drained or lanced, the scar will not show that much, if the same thing happens to the bicep you stand a good chance of permanent disfigurment so stay away from spots like this until you are ready.

Im out...

FFM

What can I say man...I'm just an info junkie. Thanks a ton for the good info here FFM. To be honest, pinning sounds somewhat scary, only because of the potential for infection (I had a bad staph infection this summer on my elbow - not pretty) and the potential to hit a nerve or vein :S The more I learn from this forum however, the more confident I become.

Thanks again,
V

[Far from massive]

As long as your gear is good and you maintain good injection procedures you should be fine. There are a lot of videos on the internet put on by nursing clinics and hospice programs showing how to administer injection as well as a lot of good IM location charts, you know what they say a picture is worth a thousan words.

Probably 95% of the people who develop abscesses are not following good procedures, lots of guy never use an alcohol wipe on the vial septum or the injection site, others reuse their drawing needle thinking since they only use the needle to draw from the vial there are no germs, the first time you ask them if they think vegetable oil gets rancid on the needle once the BA evaporates a light goes off... LOL