TRT and hardened arteries

[Johnny Sinn]

We hav all heard that effects of aas use can harden the arteries and cause heart failure i.e. Football players and wrestlers of the 80s.

As far as trt I can't find any evidence but has it been around long enough to know the health risks. I took myself off and it was a tough tough rebound but I'm recovered at this point.

I don't feel bad but don't feel like I did on trt.

I'm in limbo about wanting to be on it. I'm worried about the health risks

[wecker]

I think there is a lot of other stuff that people do to there bodies
that is more harmful than trt or anabolic steroids


Such as eating bad food … smoking… stress etc. etc.
Doing no sports and getting fat.

I can imagine that athletes could eventually get heart problems when overdosing AAS for a prolonged time.


Testosterone and the Heart

Normal aging results in the gradual weakening of the heart, even in the absence of significant coronary artery disease. If nothing else kills the elderly, at some point their heart just stops beating.

Testosterone is a muscle-building hormone and there are many testosterone-receptor sites in the heart. (57) The weakening of the heart muscle can sometimes be attributed to testosterone deficiency. (103-108) Testosterone is not only responsible for maintaining heart muscle protein synthesis, but it is a promoter of coronary artery dilation (109-113) and helps to maintain healthy cholesterol levels. (81,114)

There is an ever-increasing number of studies indicating an association between high testosterone and low cardiovascular disease rates in men. (81) In the majority of patients, symptoms and EKG measurements improve when low testosterone levels are corrected. One study showed that blood flow to the heart improved 68.8% in those receiving testosterone therapy. (9) In China, doctors are successfully treating angina with testosterone therapy. (9,115,116)

[Johnny Sinn]

Good to know. Thank you

[zaggahamma]

good post wecker...good info

op....football players and wrestlers of the 80's???? HUH??????

[Johnny Sinn]

I wasn't being serious about that. Lol. But want to ask you guys. Im doing a lot of research but it seems there's a lot of hype and it centers around abuse

[zaggahamma]

I wasn't being serious about that. Lol. But want to ask you guys. Im doing a lot of research but it seems there's a lot of hype and it centers around abuse

KEY WORD is HYPE....not usually good for education....

good for promoting wrestling matches and football games...hey we're back to wrestling and football

[Johnny Sinn]

At this point I'm done having kids. I'm 32. I always felt very irritable at that dose I was on at 200mg per week. My test levels were only mid range at that level too. Like 500s. I'm gonna try again I think

[flatscat]

I think there is a lot of other stuff that people do to there bodies
that is more harmful than trt or anabolic steroids


Such as eating bad food … smoking… stress etc. etc.
Doing no sports and getting fat.

I can imagine that athletes could eventually get heart problems when overdosing AAS for a prolonged time.


Testosterone and the Heart

Normal aging results in the gradual weakening of the heart, even in the absence of significant coronary artery disease. If nothing else kills the elderly, at some point their heart just stops beating.

Testosterone is a muscle-building hormone and there are many testosterone-receptor sites in the heart. (57) The weakening of the heart muscle can sometimes be attributed to testosterone deficiency. (103-108) Testosterone is not only responsible for maintaining heart muscle protein synthesis, but it is a promoter of coronary artery dilation (109-113) and helps to maintain healthy cholesterol levels. (81,114)

There is an ever-increasing number of studies indicating an association between high testosterone and low cardiovascular disease rates in men. (81) In the majority of patients, symptoms and EKG measurements improve when low testosterone levels are corrected. One study showed that blood flow to the heart improved 68.8% in those receiving testosterone therapy. (9) In China, doctors are successfully treating angina with testosterone therapy. (9,115,116)

Nice - but your source? Footnotes my good man, footnotes

[zaggahamma]

i was actually thinking the op didnt provide enough info...wecker's post looked copied and pasted AND MADE MORE SENSE

[Johnny Sinn]

So the verdict is trt is not responsible for cardiovascular issues

[zaggahamma]

So the verdict is trt is not responsible for cardiovascular issues

i have read more on it(trt) being beneficial to a longer/quality/healthier life having a positive test/estrogen ratio...

AAS abuse-different story

[wecker]

found some more infos about TRT and the heart (source: anabolic steroid forum)

Another myth is that testosterone is bad for the heart. Actually, low testosterone correlates with heart disease more reliably than high cholesterol. (231) Testosterone is the most powerful cardiovascular protector for men. Testosterone strengthens the heart muscle; there are more testosterone receptors in the heart than in any other muscle. (232) Testosterone lowers LDL cholesterol and total cholesterol, (69,81,111) and improves every cardiac risk factor. It has been shown to improve or eliminate arrhythmia and angina. (9,106,113-115,233,266 ) A Testosterone replacement is the most underutilized important treatment for heart disease.

[stevey_6t9]

found some more infos about TRT and the heart (source: anabolic steroid forum)

Another myth is that testosterone is bad for the heart. Actually, low testosterone correlates with heart disease more reliably than high cholesterol. (231) Testosterone is the most powerful cardiovascular protector for men. Testosterone strengthens the heart muscle; there are more testosterone receptors in the heart than in any other muscle. (232) Testosterone lowers LDL cholesterol and total cholesterol, (69,81,111) and improves every cardiac risk factor. It has been shown to improve or eliminate arrhythmia and angina. (9,106,113-115,233,266 ) A Testosterone replacement is the most underutilized important treatment for heart disease.

its important for the OP to understand that these changes are due to healthy normal testosterone levels that TRT can provide, NOT superphysiological levels from blasting that your 80's athletes and wrestlers took for long periods. That results in decrease HDL, increase LDL/TC, BP, etc