6 week anavar

[BrettVarvre]

I'm going to keep a record of progress, I think it will help motivate me through additional accountability, maybe it will be of interest to some.

first experience with any form of aas

My goal is to add muscle and decrease BF, I'm not really interested in getting huge

Age: 23 H 5' 11"

W ~175lbs BF ~12-14

I forgot to check weight and bf% at the gym today but I'll get a definite baseline tomorrow.

Week 1 40mg var
Week 2 50 mg var 50 mcg T3
Week 3 60 mg var 50 mcg T3
Week 4 70 mg var 50 mcg T3
Week 5 80 mg var 25 mcg T3
Week 6 60 mg var

Discussion:

I have more than enough clomid on hand, suggested dose/duration?

I am considering taking clen or albuterol for weeks 7 8 9, extending and possibly increasing T3 dose. thoughts/suggestions?

Any other advice?

[CMB]

Well, I've never used T3 before so I can't really comment on the doses or usage. But I would keep the var at 80mgs throughout week 6 too.

If you really want an effective pct I would order tamox as well. You can save the clomid for another time .

Tamox 40/20/20/20... Some might say this is to much but I think its perfect for an anavar cycle.

If you decide not to get tamox do this: Clomid 100/50/50/50

I'd run albuterol through your pct at 6mgs a day, I had success with this as strength will continue to increase even after your testosterone levels are low .

Hope this helps.

[BrettVarvre]

thanks for the feedback man its great to hear from people who know more than I do. I could do the var as 70 mg for weeks 4 5 and 6 or run it at 80 until I run out and cut week 6 a little short, these doses are set up to use everything i have. unfortunately my source disappeared from the internets a month after I found it or I'd be shopping right now.

good to hear that the albuterol worked for you I will definitely incorporate this. It seems like a less stressful but comparable alternative to clen. I had found way less info regarding its use so I wasn't sure what to think.

I didnt really look into tamox at all that warrants further research.

thanks again for taking the time

[CMB]

No problem man. And hey, once your done with this cycle, post your results im always interested in anavar cycles.

[BrettVarvre]

I'm planning on doing an update every week regarding weight, bf% strength gains, and any other observations. I have before pictures, I'm going to wait to post befores and afters at the same time

[Tigershark]

Look forward to reading about your progress.

[cerealkiller326]

I keep on going back and forth with Var cycle or Test E cycle...looking forward to your results to determine my official decision. Good Luck

[Kawigirl]

Do your homework on T3...I know some competitors who didn't know what it actually does and have messed up their thyroid. Helps to be educated.
I've used T3 myself...can't personally I think it did anything (for myself)

All I know is that it was always suggested to me to pyramid.

Var is such a mild supplement; I'm surprised a male would choose an expensive one to be used singularly. I'm curious as to your gains. Keep us posted.

[vettewreck]

Deffinitly Pyramid down with T3. If you stop it completely your thyroid isnt working properly bc its been relying on the drugs so to stop abruptly means you rebound hard and gain a bunch of pure fat. Everyone is different to dose of T3 but if youre genecially gifted, 25mcg may be ok. However with me 50mcg didnt do much and 100mcg worked good. But like I said, DEFF pyramid down over 2 weeks to allow your body to re-adjust to avoid fast fat gain.

Var at 80mg is a good starting dose for a first timer.

[CMB]

Do your homework on T3...I know some competitors who didn't know what it actually does and have messed up their thyroid. Helps to be educated.
I've used T3 myself...can't personally I think it did anything (for myself)

All I know is that it was always suggested to me to pyramid.

Var is such a mild supplement; I'm surprised a male would choose an expensive one to be used singularly. I'm curious as to your gains. Keep us posted.

Lol, a common mis-conception.

[BrettVarvre]

Do your homework on T3...I know some competitors who didn't know what it actually does and have messed up their thyroid. Helps to be educated.
I've used T3 myself...can't personally I think it did anything (for myself)

All I know is that it was always suggested to me to pyramid.

Var is such a mild supplement; I'm surprised a male would choose an expensive one to be used singularly. I'm curious as to your gains. Keep us posted.

I have researched for several years and concluded that aas is something that I should gradually integrate into my routine as opposed to going in headfirst with a 12 or 10 week injection cycle. I understand why people say that all oral cycles are not worthwhile. I don't know anybody personally with aas experience and since I have to rely on feedback and research it just seems more logical to start slow.

kids learn to ride a bike with training wheels first. if their parents love them anyway.

regarding the price, I will always prioritize running whatever substance I have deemed perfect for my goals, health and general situation over cost.

[BrettVarvre]

BASELINE: 179 lbs 13.6% BF. I got a little fatter than I had anticipated.

I am thinking that I will probably not use the T3 this go around and will save it until I have time to do much more thorough research as well as being able to incorporate it into a longer cycle in order to achieve the recommended pyramid dosing scheme. Thanks for all the feedback on that.

[Kawigirl]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...Q-A-great-read.

Take a read CMB...take note "mild"

[dec11]

Lol, a common mis-conception.

rubbish, var is very mild. you shouldnt be dealing out advice to any1, you havent a clue

[BrettVarvre]

1 week in:
Weight 181 BF 13.7%. I am taking creatine at the moment does anybody know if the excess water will affect the reading by the hand held machine tester? I believe they work by measuring water in the body but not much beyond that.
Observations: The only reportable side is an almost daily mild and brief headache.
I have had very strong workouts but I am attributing this mostly to the combination of psychological excitement and creatine.
Dosage is increased to 50mgs, I am working on getting some additional supplies to extend this to 8 weeks and wrap up the last few weeks at a higher dose.
Overall not much to report this week.

[SergeantCarbs]

Heyya neighbor, yes your water retention should effect those eltronic readers. Keep an eye on your waist line with a tape measure each week to judge progress. Also there's a bodpod testing facitlity in Malvern that you may be interested in getting a real test.

[BrettVarvre]

Heyya neighbor, yes your water retention should effect those eltronic readers. Keep an eye on your waist line with a tape measure each week to judge progress. Also there's a bodpod testing facitlity in Malvern that you may be interested in getting a real test.

haha wow its cool to see somebody from so close by

[SergeantCarbs]

haha wow its cool to see somebody from so close by

Not far at all, I'm out near Limerick

[BrettVarvre]

Update
I have noticed some decent strength gains. more noticeable, my tiny balls. I understand why people say it and have concluded that test will always my base from now on, I just had to learn it for myself. Overall I haven't been too impressed but have an open mind for the coming weeks when I will be taking a higher dose, as well as expecting the compound to kick in more fully.

[Cacu]

Any updates on your Var cycle? Really interested.

Libido shutdown?
What are your strength gains like?

[BrettVarvre]

General Observations so far:
Take 70-80 mgs/day any less is a noticeable drop off.

Libido definitely does decrease about 2 weeks in. I wouldn't call it shutdown though, Its not erectile dysfunction more that I'm just not starving for sex constantly. sex drive was crazy high for the first 1.5 weeks which I didn't understand. The balls are smaller

I have never taken anything else so I can't really speak to what the strength gains are like. For the first few weeks I was pretty disappointed but starting around 2.5 - 3 weeks in I started to make some very nice strength gains. For example, I benched 225 x 12 and before had not gone over 7. Basically I can pick one lift every day at the gym and do a personal best. That said I think endurance regarding duration of lifting sessions has decreased.

I have seen people say that anavar goes nicely with creatine would definitely agree with that statement. I had some lying around and took it for about two weeks until I ran out.

I have read about fat burning principals of anavar but haven't seen it yet. That is not to say that its not possible but I have been eating to bulk lately as I decided I'll slim down with clen/albuterol later. additionally I haven't done much cardio due to shin splints as well as general excitement to hit the weights. I think that the fat burning abilities may be overstated by marketing and general enthusiasm for the compound. I have the suspicion that anavar has made running more difficult but can't confirm for sure due to shin splints and it being too cold to do a nice long run outside.

I am taking anavar only as a first cycle to get myself more acquainted with anabolic steroids and posting this so that somebody in my shoes will have additional material to read into, I have already decided that my next cycle will be based off of test, I understand why everybody says that it is a waste of money to do an oral only cycle but for me this is the best way to cut my teeth. I would recommend starting off with anavar only to anybody it has been a great way for me to get used to the greater level of focus and dedication required when incorporating an anabolic substance into a workout routine. I have learned not to push myself too hard in certain cases ie just because I probably can do the lift doesnt always mean I should. that is something that I would have to imagine is definitely worth understanding 100% as you move onto stronger compounds. in starting this cycle I have stepped up my research into other compounds for the future, research everything thoroughly, and then research some more.

I will keep posting observations, I haven't done a BF test in a while because I noticed that the two scales at the gym are more than 5 lbs different which is absurd but my hatred for ballys will eventually get its own entire thread

any questions, feel free to ask, based on the frequency of var questions on this board I think that a decent number of people are interested in doing exactly what I am

[flexandex]

The sad part is youre going to post how you gained 20-30lbs, other kids will see this, and jump on the bandwagon. The thing is, you are going to lose it all but 5lbs probably.

i'm basing it on the fact that hes 19 and 175lbs(7% vs 12% BF). He simply doesnt have a base to sustain the gains. I would think that would be common sense

Just giving you vette's full opinion on us 175 lber's

really interested in how this cycle goes for you in terms of gaining str/losing fat.
What kind of diet will you be running? A moderate calory sort of recomp diet? Or a more low cal cutting diet?

[BJJ]

I'm going to keep a record of progress, I think it will help motivate me through additional accountability, maybe it will be of interest to some.

first experience with any form of aas

My goal is to add muscle and decrease BF, I'm not really interested in getting huge

Age: 23 H 5' 11"

W ~175lbs BF ~12-14

I forgot to check weight and bf% at the gym today but I'll get a definite baseline tomorrow.

Week 1 40mg var
Week 2 50 mg var 50 mcg T3
Week 3 60 mg var 50 mcg T3
Week 4 70 mg var 50 mcg T3
Week 5 80 mg var 25 mcg T3
Week 6 60 mg var

Discussion:

I have more than enough clomid on hand, suggested dose/duration?

I am considering taking clen or albuterol for weeks 7 8 9, extending and possibly increasing T3 dose. thoughts/suggestions?

Any other advice?

I would not use T3 but raise the intake of oxandrolone.
Also, for PCT if I had to choose only one compound I would go for tamoxifen citrate.
Any blood work?

[BrettVarvre]

Just giving you vette's full opinion on us 175 lber's

really interested in how this cycle goes for you in terms of gaining str/losing fat.
What kind of diet will you be running? A moderate calory sort of recomp diet? Or a more low cal cutting diet?

Diet for an average day:
Breakfast:
magic bullet smoothie with 1 scoop 100% whey gold standard
1/5 bagel w/light cream cheese

lunch (eaten throughout the day depending on work schedule):
2 turkey sandwiches on wheat bread
2 apples
2 bananas or some other combo of fruit
greek yogurt

2 scoops whey protein, ~1/4 consumed before workout, 3/4 after

Dinner:
whatever my mom makes haha (haven't saved enough to move out yet)

I'll readily admit that I am not too knowledgeable regarding nutrition

in terms of bodyfat I'd imagine it hasn't changed much, I have had some issued with getting my usual cardio in

strength gains: I have gained a lot more strength than I would have expected in relation to the size put on, I do something that impresses myself every day

[BrettVarvre]

I would not use T3 but raise the intake of oxandrolone.
Also, for PCT if I had to choose only one compound I would go for tamoxifen citrate.
Any blood work?

Somebody else mentioned tamox, I value your opinion quite a bit based on the thorough write ups I have seen you produce, how would you dose the tamox?

I did the other two things you suggested, have been running 80 mgs for a week now and will do so until I finish.

saved the t3 for another time

[BJJ]

Somebody else mentioned tamox, I value your opinion quite a bit based on the thorough write ups I have seen you produce, how would you dose the tamox?

I did the other two things you suggested, have been running 80 mgs for a week now and will do so until I finish.

saved the t3 for another time

Good call.
In regard of tamox, I would do 40/20/20/ ed.

[Cacu]

What kind of strength gains? Like 10% PR every time you go in?

[SergeantCarbs]

Any updates on your cycle?