My current first cycle test 250 cyp. and 250 substanon

[afghanistud]

Im into my week 5 and just finished my first test cyp. and starting my 250 subs in 2 days. i have clomid and hcg for post. should i use both or just one would be fine? any other advice? was it better to stack them or just do them one after another? i run 500 mg/week. 2 injections and so far ive gained about 7-8 lbs. is the sustanon better than the cyp?

Im 21
Start weight:167
Current weight:174
Body fat: 7.1%
Height: 5'9

[marcus300]

You shouldnt be using steroids, you have no idea what your doing. You are also to young and you have no base or foundation.

[afghanistud]

thats not the answer im looking for, ive already done it. been lifting for 4 years and do have a base.

[flexandex]

7-8lbs in 5 weeks from a 160 odd base is pretty poor. That could be easily attained naturally.

post up your diet and training split, we may aswell fix those since you're allready halfway through this ill concieved cycle.
Hcg should be used on-cycle as a sort of prevention tool, it can aid in your recovery in PCT. Everything you need to know about HCG is here -http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?398794-HCG-How-important-is-it
Only clomid for PCT? i would recommend looking at a basic PCT including nolva aswell..
Do you have an AI incase of any estrogenic sides? i guess you haven't encoutered any so far?

The sust is no 'better' than the cyp, its effectively the same thing with a different delivery system. To get the gains you are looking for you need to sort your diet and training.

[terraj]

7-8lbs in 5 weeks from a 160 odd base is pretty poor. That could be easily attained naturally.

post up your diet and training split, we may aswell fix those since you're allready halfway through this ill concieved cycle.
Hcg should be used on-cycle as a sort of prevention tool, it can aid in your recovery in PCT. Everything you need to know about HCG is here -http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?398794-HCG-How-important-is-it
Only clomid for PCT? i would recommend looking at a basic PCT including nolva aswell..
Do you have an AI incase of any estrogenic sides? i guess you haven't encoutered any so far?

The sust is no 'better' than the cyp, its effectively the same thing with a different delivery system. To get the gains you are looking for you need to sort your diet and training.

Your 19 year old with the same stats as the OP....don't give advice.

[stevey_6t9]

7-8lbs in 5 weeks from a 160 odd base is pretty poor. That could be easily attained naturally.

post up your diet and training split, we may aswell fix those since you're allready halfway through this ill concieved cycle.
Hcg should be used on-cycle as a sort of prevention tool, it can aid in your recovery in PCT. Everything you need to know about HCG is here -http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?398794-HCG-How-important-is-it
Only clomid for PCT? i would recommend looking at a basic PCT including nolva aswell..
Do you have an AI incase of any estrogenic sides? i guess you haven't encoutered any so far?

The sust is no 'better' than the cyp, its effectively the same thing with a different delivery system. To get the gains you are looking for you need to sort your diet and training.

haha your kidding me aren't you...

[dec11]

you'll end up with shot tendons, ligaments etc. not to mention the poss repercussions on your hpta

[MACHINE5150]

This is bad... all bad.. too young, too light for your height.. your diet is what you need not steroids.. you can take three times what you took for twice as long and still get no solid results if your diet is in check.. I recomend stopping cycle and take the clomid at 50mg a day for three weeks starting three weeks from your last injection.. continuing this cycle is putting yourself at unecessary risk for many of the above mentioned problems.. get your diet in check and you can easily hit 200lbs in a couple years, and by then you will be old enough to take them..

educate yourself about what you are doing to your body before you go and start injecting things into you.

[stephenc28]

you guys keep telling people there too young id like your opinion on me. im 22 187cm and 105kg with about 12%bf atm. been gym for around 4-5 years. bench is 160kg max and deadlift 200kg max. but i focus on size rather than strength. dont want cycle advice just wondered in you opinion am i "ready"?