MY head is spinning!!!

[Choncho]

I havent posted much on here but ive been reading and trying to learn for a long time. I'm 34 been working out most of my life off/on. Ive been on and working hard for the past 3 yrs trying to bet big. Everyone tells me im big im about 235lbs i dont know bf%. Anyway i dont think i will ever now enough to even try gear just when i think i know something i read something else and i realize i have no idea. How do ppl learn how to use gear trial and error? i dont think i want the error but would like to try one day!! Dont know if i ever will though.

[Hitman Heimler]

Don't let all of this confuse you. This forum is filled with good information and a lot of opinons. There are a lot of people on here that will just start pinning as soon as they can, even young kids unfortunately. I am glad to see that you are concerned with getting yourself educated. I would first need to know personally why I want to take them? I would understand that these will not make you Mr. Olypia over-night. But I think we both understand that they aren't miracle workers, right. Gear is honestly a small part of my equation for gaining muscle; it was a big part, so I thought, when I first started, but now it's just part of a bigger picture. Read the stickies mainly, because they will provide you with what you really need to understand what you need to start.

I hope this helps, and this is only my opinion-remember what I wrote above?

[Duckhombre]

get a book or two. Read the stickys, visit more than a couple places on the net. Not trial and error. iti's not very complicated to start. It' get's a little twistly on down the road, but by then it will make more sense.

[eGGz]

First cycle simplified:

Cycle:
weeks 1 - 12 500mg Testosterone enanthate or cypionate.
(inject 250mg monday morning and 250mg thursday evening)

Pct:
weeks 15 - 18 Clomid @ 100/100/50/50 milligrams per day.
weeks 15 - 20 Nolvadex @ 40/40/20/20/20/20 milligrams per day.

[MBMETC]

dont concern yourself with multi-compound cycles that is for the well experianced. look into testosterone only cycle. keep in mind diet and training make up a bigger part of the puzzel than steroids.
good luck

[Far from massive]

Man what a great mindset, too bad more people don't have the concern you do with understanding all the variables before jumping in the deep end of the pool.

[JohnnyVegas]

Remember to keep it simple. The starter cycle above is perfect. You can find a basic diet, or post your diet for feedback. Then all you need to do is lift things up and put them down. :-)

All the complicated info can be stored in your noggin for future use.

[eyepoker]

Just make sure your time on = your time off as well as keeping the test dose relatively mild. You will be fine.

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Man what a great mindset, too bad more people don't have the concern you do with understanding all the variables before jumping in the deep end of the pool.

I agree with this 100%! Unfortunatley this is one of those things that comes with age and experience. I doubt we will EVER see this statement (or one like it) coming from a 18 y/o member.

[cro]

me 3

[marcus300]

Go to the education threads and read the stickies, that will give you a good basic knowledge of steroids and how to use them for the first timer, once you have a basic idea start a thread giving as much information as possible about yourself and what you want to achieve and we will try to help you in the right direction.

[Choncho]

Thanks guys for all the input. I will post my diet in the diet forms one of these days . First cycle simplified:

Cycle:
weeks 1 - 12 500mg Testosterone enanthate or cypionate.
(inject 250mg monday morning and 250mg thursday evening)

Pct:
weeks 15 - 18 Clomid @ 100/100/50/50 milligrams per day.
weeks 15 - 20 Nolvadex @ 40/40/20/20/20/20 milligrams per day. That seems pretty straight forward and simple, 500mg for the first time user is that to high or am i just being to cautious. ( or scared) lol

[eGGz]

@ 235lbs I thing 500mg should be just about right.