How many calories does DNP burn on a day to day basis???

[ramacher]

I am on a calorie deficit (2,500 kcals, 280 protein, 120 carbs, 90 fats) and wanted to do a 2 week DNP cycle 250 mg crystal ED. If my diet stays the same what would I expect in to burn calories every day just with DNP. I have heard it burns 50 percent more metabolism and 11 percent. 250mg is tolerable and that is the highest i'll go. Is 7 lbs of fat reasonable to burn in such a short cycle?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I don't think there is an exact science behind it. I am on day 5 of 200mg of DNP right now. I will up the dose to 400mg because my results have been so-so at best. I am eating too much so I started dropping my carbs today

[ramacher]

So you haven't seen much so far? I did fine on 200mg a day but when I bumped up to 400mg that is when I started to feel like crap.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

yea this is why I'm still reluctant to bump up the dose. I want to take a few days to see how the carb difference works for me. I lowered them by 100g today. depending on the results, I will either bump to 400mg or keep it at 200mg. The good thing with the 200mg dose if you can run it for longer

did you notice a difference in results between 200mg and 400mg? What was your diet?

[ramacher]

Winter Diet Plan – Weekdays

BREAKFAST (11:00 AM) – 6 OZ. LEAN GROUND BEEF [225 Calories/36 grams Protein/0 grams Carbs/10 grams Fat]
3 FARM FRESH EGGS [210 Calories/21 grams Protein/0 grams Carbs/9 grams Fat]
3 FARM FRESS EGG WHITES [45 Calories/12 grams Protein/0 grams Carbs/0 grams Fat]
2 OZ. BLACK FOREST HAM [60 Calories/10 grams Protein/0 grams Carbs/1 grams Fat]
6 OZ. OF GRAPEFRUIT JUICE [70 Calories/1 grams Protein/17 grams Carbs/0 grams Fat]
Totals: (665 Calories/80 grams Protein/17 grams Carbs/22 grams Fat)

PRE WRKOUT (1:15 PM) – 1 SCOOP OF BUZZERK (50 Calories/0 grams Protein/14 grams Carbs/0 grams Fat]
Totals: (50 Calories/0 grams Protein/14 grams Carbs/0 grams Fat)

POST WRKOUT (2:30 PM) – ½ SCOOP OF TITAN V-CORE WHEY POWDER [155 Calories/26 grams Protein/4 grams Carbs/2 grams Fat]
3 CUPS OF RAW MILK [330 Calories/27 grams Protein/36 grams Carbs/9 grams Fat]
2 TBSP OF PSYLLIUM HUSK [35 Calories/0 grams Protein/10 grams Carbs/0 grams Fat]
Totals: (520 Calories/53 grams Protein/50 grams Carbs/11 grams Fat)

LUNCH (4:30 PM) – 5 OZ. TURKEY BREAST [150 Calories/32 grams Protein/0 grams Carbs/1.5 grams Fat]
2 PIECES OF APPLEWOOD BACON [180 Calories/10 grams Protein/0 Carbs/14 grams Fat]
3 OZ. OF RAW VEGETABLES [50 Calories/3 grams Protein/0 grams Carbs/0 grams Fat]
1 PIECE OF DAVE’S KILLER BREAD [110 Calories/6 grams Protein/14 grams Carbs/2 grams Fat]
1 TBSP. OF OLIVE OIL [120 Calories/0 grams Protein/0 grams Carbs/14 grams Fat]
1 SMALL AVOCADO [120 Calories/1 grams Protein/5 grams Carbs/14 grams Fat]
Totals: (730 Calories/52 grams Protein/25 grams Carbs/45 grams Fat)

DINNER (9:00 PM) – 8-12 OZ. LEAN PROTEIN [360 Calories/72 grams Protein/0 grams Carbs/2 grams Fat]
3 OZ. OF STEAMED VEGGIES [70 Calories/7 grams Protein/0 grams Carbs/0 grams Fat]
Totals: (430 Calories/79 grams Protein/0 grams Carbs/2 grams Fat)

SNACK (BEDTIME) – 1 CUP OF RAW MILK [110 Calories/9 grams Protein/9 grams Carbs/3 grams Fat]
1 TBSP PEANUT BUTTER [100 Calories/4 grams Protein/4 grams Carbs/7 grams Fat]
Totals: (210 Calories/13 grams Protein/13 grams Carbs/10 grams Fat)


Total Calories/Protein/Carbs/Fat:
(2,605 Calories/280 grams Protein/119 grams Carbs/90 grams Fat)
(57%/24%/19%)

[AlphaMaleDawg]

that seems pretty low carb. My maintenance cals are high for my size so I just lowered my cals to 3400, I see your carbs are very low.

and did you notice a difference between 200mg and 400mg in results? or just sides?

[ramacher]

just in sides. does dnp burn even more at higher carbs?

[ramacher]

anybody have a number to throw out?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I don't think this forum is too knowledgeable when it comes to DNP. search for a guy named "Conciliator" and look for his posts in google. he posts on several aas sites and he is the internet DNP guru

[magic32]

Actually, there are some very DNP/Poison knowledgeable guys here, and I agree with your assessment on poison's symptoms not being an exact science.

Essentially, when you take DNP (a phenol used primarily in herbicides, pesticides, and dyes), you’re systemically (by controlling the dosage, frequency and duration) poisoning yourself. Contrary to popular internet belief DNP is not a drug, although one of its primary symptoms (rapid stored fat loss) sometimes causes it to be administered as such. This is similar to how chemo poisons are used in therapy. You can read a more detailed discussion on this by clicking my sig below.

In short, drugs cure or help make one well or at least better, whereas poisons harm, damage, or kill living organisms. Sometimes these negative attributes and their resulting ‘symptoms’, which are inherent to poisons as they don’t have side effects (those negative effects that run alongSIDE a drug’s innately ‘beneficial’ properties) can be harnessed for good, again e.g. chemo’s controlled poisonous chemical’s destruction/killing of your cancerous cells before killing you.

The short version is DNP is not a good bb’ing tool, and should not be consumed. Don’t get me wrong, I certainly understand the allure (even the construction of the name Dinitrophenol makes you want to try it), and if you must, as did I, then go ahead. But it’s largely useless in our capacity, and unfortunately doesn’t contribute in the negative feedback loop, i.e. your body doesn’t accept its fat loss as legitimate and restores the losses upon discontinuation of your…and yes I have to say it, poisoning protocol.

Again, this is discussed in great detail in the signature-linked thread below, please see it and submit any questions.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Actually, there are some very DNP/Poison knowledgeable guys here, and I agree with your assessment on poison's symptoms not being an exact science.

Essentially, when you take DNP (a phenol used primarily in herbicides, pesticides, and dyes), you’re systemically (by controlling the dosage, frequency and duration) poisoning yourself. Contrary to popular internet belief DNP is not a drug, although one of its primary symptoms (rapid stored fat loss) sometimes causes it to be administered as such. This is similar to how chemo poisons are used in therapy. You can read a more detailed discussion on this by clicking my sig below.

In short, drugs cure or help make one well or at least better, whereas poisons harm, damage, or kill living organisms. Sometimes these negative attributes and their resulting ‘symptoms’, which are inherent to poisons as they don’t have side effects (those negative effects that run alongSIDE a drug’s innately ‘beneficial’ properties) can be harnessed for good, again e.g. chemo’s controlled poisonous chemical’s destruction/killing of your cancerous cells before killing you.

The short version is DNP is not a good bb’ing tool, and should not be consumed. Don’t get me wrong, I certainly understand the allure (even the construction of the name Dinitrophenol makes you want to try it), and if you must, as did I, then go ahead. But it’s largely useless in our capacity, and unfortunately doesn’t contribute in the negative feedback loop, i.e. your body doesn’t accept its fat loss as legitimate and restores the losses upon discontinuation of your…and yes I have to say it, poisoning protocol.

Again, this is discussed in great detail in the signature-linked thread below, please see it and submit any questions.

you don't have a signature.

but I am 10 days in. Did 200mg the first five days and was disappointed with the results. I bumped it to 400mg and now I see myself losing a lot of bodyfat with NO SIDES other than increased body temperature, leading to sweats. I love this stuff and plan on using it another week and a half at least. And from what I have read, the body does not restore fat upon cessation of use. Another benefit is it's anti-catabolic/muscle sparing

and for the record, low dose DNP is not any more dangerous than clen or T3. It's perception is the same as the general public's opinion of steroids, which is also nonsense as we all know.

[Bertuzzi]

I'm gonna have to agree with Magic on this.... I have read all his posts on DNP and he seems very knowledgeable on the subject. I ran DNP once and that was while following a keto diet, which everything I have read tells you not to run DNP without consuming a lot of carbs. I did months of research before, during and after running the DNP and what I have come to understand is, its not worth it. I found many people responded to it as I did..... since it is a poison, your body fights back against it, trying to force it out of the body. Many people respond with excessive hives and rash and at some extremes Edema. I suffered from all of these while using DNP but it was not until I had come off that these sides started to show. I do not have a picture of the hives or rash but I can tell it was not fun and over the counter anti H's did nothing for it, it was not until I got some heavy duty shit from the doc that it went down. When the pharmacist looked at the script he told me, my doctor obviously wasn't messing around, because the dosing was so high.

To sum it up, for 96 straight hours I suffered from extreme hives and rash to the point that I wanted to scratch my skin right off and it was everywhere, even on the back of my head and neck.... think how much fun that was sleeping at night. I have attached a picture of one of my hands and how swollen it got. My feet swelled up so much I couldn't wear shoes and my elbows looked like I had baseballs in them.

You make the choice if you think its worth it.... some will not suffer the same fate as I. I have friends that have taken it with no issues, I just wanted to share my experience.

Keep your carbs high while running DNP 250g Minimum

Good Luck

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I'm gonna have to agree with Magic on this.... I have read all his posts on DNP and he seems very knowledgeable on the subject. I ran DNP once and that was while following a keto diet, which everything I have read tells you not to run DNP without consuming a lot of carbs. I did months of research before, during and after running the DNP and what I have come to understand is, its not worth it. I found many people responded to it as I did..... since it is a poison, your body fights back against it, trying to force it out of the body. Many people respond with excessive hives and rash and at some extremes Edema. I suffered from all of these while using DNP but it was not until I had come off that these sides started to show. I do not have a picture of the hives or rash but I can tell it was not fun and over the counter anti H's did nothing for it, it was not until I got some heavy duty shit from the doc that it went down. When the pharmacist looked at the script he told me, my doctor obviously wasn't messing around, because the dosing was so high.

To sum it up, for 96 straight hours I suffered from extreme hives and rash to the point that I wanted to scratch my skin right off and it was everywhere, even on the back of my head and neck.... think how much fun that was sleeping at night. I have attached a picture of one of my hands and how swollen it got. My feet swelled up so much I couldn't wear shoes and my elbows looked like I had baseballs in them.

You make the choice if you think its worth it.... some will not suffer the same fate as I. I have friends that have taken it with no issues, I just wanted to share my experience.

Keep your carbs high while running DNP 250g Minimum

Good Luck

The part I bolded is 100% false. It's a bad misnomer that you need a lot of carbs on DNP. Your results will be the same either way.

As for the hives, this is a rarer side effect. I too got small little bump things that were not even visible for about 4-5 days as soon as I started taking 200mg and they went away. I didn't treat them or anything because it was so minor. All I am getting is I feel hotter and sweat more easily. It is also impossible to get a nice pump on DNP. I am on 400mg now for almost two weeks, and I love this stuff. The results are much faster, and it is NOT more dangerous than clen and T3. It is also anti-catabolic, which is a huge plus. I will never cut again without it.

The steroid community views DNP the same way the general public views steroids. In both cases, these opinions are wrong. If you are getting too many sides, that's one thing. But as far as danger level goes, it is no worse at a lower dose than most other stuff people take (like tren).

[Bertuzzi]

The part I bolded is 100% false. It's a bad misnomer that you need a lot of carbs on DNP. Your results will be the same either way.

As for the hives, this is a rarer side effect. I too got small little bump things that were not even visible for about 4-5 days as soon as I started taking 200mg and they went away. I didn't treat them or anything because it was so minor. All I am getting is I feel hotter and sweat more easily. It is also impossible to get a nice pump on DNP. I am on 400mg now for almost two weeks, and I love this stuff. The results are much faster, and it is NOT more dangerous than clen and T3. It is also anti-catabolic, which is a huge plus. I will never cut again without it.

The steroid community views DNP the same way the general public views steroids. In both cases, these opinions are wrong. If you are getting too many sides, that's one thing. But as far as danger level goes, it is no worse at a lower dose than most other stuff people take (like tren).

I must say I agree with you some what in what you say about DNP not being anymore dangerous than other cutting drugs, and I think you're right in your analysis of people in the steroid community looking at it as everyday people look at steroids. Where I don't agree with you is the carb intake. I took dnp while on a keto diet, so this means only carbs on one day a week. I ran the cycle for 14 days, 4 days @ 200mg 6 days @ 400mg and 4 @ 600mg. In those 2 weeks I lost 4 pounds, guess what... It wasn't the DNP that lost those 4lbs, it was my diet. What I found is DNP is not effective when your diet consists of low cabrs, this is not a myth and I know that for sure because I did it.

On the other hand, I think I am going to try DNP one more time while on a carb loaded dier just to compare for myself, then I'll never touch the stuff again

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I must say I agree with you some what in what you say about DNP not being anymore dangerous than other cutting drugs, and I think you're right in your analysis of people in the steroid community looking at it as everyday people look at steroids. Where I don't agree with you is the carb intake. I took dnp while on a keto diet, so this means only carbs on one day a week. I ran the cycle for 14 days, 4 days @ 200mg 6 days @ 400mg and 4 @ 600mg. In those 2 weeks I lost 4 pounds, guess what... It wasn't the DNP that lost those 4lbs, it was my diet. What I found is DNP is not effective when your diet consists of low cabrs, this is not a myth and I know that for sure because I did it.

On the other hand, I think I am going to try DNP one more time while on a carb loaded dier just to compare for myself, then I'll never touch the stuff again

that is odd because I have also researched it like crazy and most people who tried it both ways claimed to see no difference. Also the DNP guru, Conciliator, said it didn't matter. I am curious to hear your results on a carb diet. Because those results are really poor for DNP. My results for 5 days on 200mg were not good, so I bumped it to 400mg and lowered my carb intake and total caloric intake by about 300. Now I am seeing great results

[Bertuzzi]

that is odd because I have also researched it like crazy and most people who tried it both ways claimed to see no difference. Also the DNP guru, Conciliator, said it didn't matter. I am curious to hear your results on a carb diet. Because those results are really poor for DNP. My results for 5 days on 200mg were not good, so I bumped it to 400mg and lowered my carb intake and total caloric intake by about 300. Now I am seeing great results

I'll let you know how it goes when/if I go ahead with DNP and higher carbs.