1st cycle please critique

[arsowat]

hi guys i've been lurking here for a while and i finally signed up. been lurking and researching this site for quite some time now and i put together a little first cycle for myself.

first off my stats; 21 years old, 175lbs 12% BF, 5'9, been training naturally almost 4 years. will be running an 10 week cycle of test-cyp. hoping to gain (keep) at least 10lbs of lean mass. would be very happy with 10lbs.

1 - 10: test-c 400mg/wk
1 - 10: liquidex .25mg ED

PCT 2 weeks after final test shot:
day 1-30: 20mg nolva ED / 100mg clomid ED / liquidex .25mg ED

i know i might get hounded by older guys here saying i'm too young, but i feel i am ready so help a guy out! thanks

[SlimmerMe]

hi guys i've been lurking here for a while and i finally signed up. been lurking and researching this site for quite some time now and i put together a little first cycle for myself.

first off my stats; 21 years old, 175lbs 12% BF, 5'9, been training naturally almost 4 years. will be running an 8 week cycle of test-cyp. hoping to gain (keep) at least 10lbs of lean mass. would be very happy with 10lbs.

1 - 8: test-c 400mg/wk
1 - 8: liquidex .25mg ED

PCT 2 weeks after final test shot:
day 1-30: 20mg nolva ED / 100mg clomid ED / liquidex .25mg ED

i know i might get hounded by older guys here saying i'm too young, but i feel i am ready so help a guy out! thanks

does hounded by a girl help?

21 is too early. You already have a TON of test right now. Take your edge. Not worth the risk of shutting down your natural test.

[Bertuzzi]

does hounded by a girl help?

21 is too early. You already have a TON of test right now. Take your edge. Not worth the risk of shutting down your natural test.

^^ Best advice, you're going to get here. Anyone who offers you cycle advice at your age, is not helping you.

Good Luck

[Tigershark]

You are too young.

[X83]

Wait a few more years and do some research before starting.

[HyPeRtRoPhIc]

just reinforcing everyone else bro, trust em

[arsowat]

Wait a few more years and do some research before starting.

do some research? what's wrong with my cycle?

i guess i'll just go to *********.com and say i'm 26. thanks guys!

[HyPeRtRoPhIc]

another one bites the dust i guess

[MBMETC]

its a poor plan and if you researched as you say you would know that.
i dont care if you 30 the plan is no bueno

[arsowat]

its a poor plan and if you researched as you say you would know that.
i dont care if you 30 the plan is no bueno

funny how you say it's a poor plan, when i copied it right out of the stickies! shows how much you know

[ijbickerdike]

People ask for help and can't take it!!!!!

[MBMETC]

funny how you say it's a poor plan, when i copied it right out of the stickies! shows how much you know

if your trying to bait me for answers it worked 8 weeks of a long ester (you do know what that is right) isnot a good plan
some of thoses stickies are older than you.

[shemp]

This is not the way to go about getting help from anyone about anything...

[arsowat]

if your trying to bait me for answers it worked 8 weeks of a long ester (you do know what that is right) isnot a good plan
some of thoses stickies are older than you.

sorry i meant 10 weeks, was falling asleep at the keyboard

21 is too early. You already have a TON of test right now. Take your edge. Not worth the risk of shutting down your natural test.

i know i have a ton of test now, so i'll just give myself some more

[MBMETC]

ok still a bad plan

[arsowat]

ok still a bad plan

no it's actually not. what could possibly be bad about it?

and i'll be honest here, i don't want to wait another 4-5 years to have my dream physique when i'll be 27 years old.

[MBMETC]

so you may get it at 22 but your dick may not work, can you afford a lifetime of viagra. it's just not worth it you can achieve this naturally and if those stats are correct it should take you no time at all. i don't know what your dream physique is and i dont know what you think you will achieve of this cycle because if your stuck for gains now then there is something wrong with your diet, training or both.

[shemp]

Im shortly going to be 27. Never cycled. Thats young dude. You dont want to not be able to have kids one day or worse. Time and discipline is what gives real results. After that go for it.

[cro]

38 just finishing my 1st aas cycle.

[songdog]

She told u how it was.

[songdog]

Dont make her tell you twice.She may get upset

[SlimmerMe]

Heres the deal:
your natural test has not stopped peaking and if you take Test now, you will never recover to that peak level again. So it is best to get a natural foundation first while you have the TONS of hormones and then when your own natural levels start to drop, then that is the time to consider if IF and IF you are eating right and training right.

Because if you are not totally dialed in, the gains you make will not last and now you are left with lower natural test for the rest of your life.

Do you want to have premature ED and end up in the "Over 40" forum here? or the Hormone Replacement Therapy" forum here? which, by the way is becoming more and more popular with guys 19-25 who have LOW T and do not know what in the heck to do about it.....and will have to be on TRT for the rest of their lives. 'tis true

Take advantage of having what you have.....while it last.

[dec11]

listen to slimmer etc, only took 5 cycles before my system packed its case an said 'see ya'

[arsowat]

Heres the deal:
your natural test has not stopped peaking and if you take Test now, you will never recover to that peak level again. So it is best to get a natural foundation first while you have the TONS of hormones and then when your own natural levels start to drop, then that is the time to consider if IF and IF you are eating right and training right.

Because if you are not totally dialed in, the gains you make will not last and now you are left with lower natural test for the rest of your life.

Do you want to have premature ED and end up in the "Over 40" forum here? or the Hormone Replacement Therapy" forum here? which, by the way is becoming more and more popular with guys 19-25 who have LOW T and do not know what in the heck to do about it.....and will have to be on TRT for the rest of their lives. 'tis true

Take advantage of having what you have.....while it last.

thanks for the advice, and i really appreciate it... but i should be fine.

[SlimmerMe]

thanks for the advice, and i really appreciate it... but i should be fine.

you are welcome. And how do you think you will be fine? Do you have a magic concoction? Something the other guys need to hear about? pray tell.....

[arsowat]

you are welcome. And how do you think you will be fine? Do you have a magic concoction? Something the other guys need to hear about? pray tell.....

proper pct regimen. and you are exaggerating. too many people cycle AAS (especially improperly) even younger than me and they are fine. thanks for the info but 21 really is old enough, stop being ridiculous.

[RaZr]

If you don't agree with the advice of the people on here why don't you go somewhere else where your health is not important instead of wasting the time of those who are here?

[dec11]

proper pct regimen. and you are exaggerating. too many people cycle AAS (especially improperly) even younger than me and they are fine. thanks for the info but 21 really is old enough, stop being ridiculous.

you're the only one being ridiculous, if you knew no one would advise you on your cycle why did you bother with this thread? dont cheek back at knowledgable members like a child bcos you're not hearing what you want to hear, slimmer offers nothing but good advice

[MBMETC]

Sorry to interject.

Just because you moved up from the kiddie table to the adult table last thanksgiving doesn't mean your ready to cycle.

[arsowat]

If you don't agree with the advice of the people on here why don't you go somewhere else where your health is not important instead of wasting the time of those who are here?

i didnt ask any of you for health advice nor should you be giving any because you are not endocrinologists. i'm a big boy i am old enough to make my own decisions, and i simply asked you what you thought of the cycle / if you could give me any tips, not start a 27 replies thread saying that i am too young.

Sorry to interject.

Just because you moved up from the kiddie table to the adult table last thanksgiving doesn't mean your ready to cycle.

lol i don't think you should be taking shots at me because i have a better physique than you and i am natural.

[RaZr]

Heres your tip, your too young.

[dec11]

i didnt ask any of you for health advice nor should you be giving any because you are not endocrinologists. i'm a big boy i am old enough to make my own decisions, and i simply asked you what you thought of the cycle / if you could give me any tips, not start a 27 replies thread saying that i am too young.



lol i don't think you should be taking shots at me because i have a better physique than you and i am natural.

yet again, why then did you make this thread?!

[arsowat]

yet again, why then did you make this thread?!

yet again, to see if it's a good cycle.

[RaZr]

No cycle is good at your age

[arsowat]

No cycle is good at your age

ok so how about this... i will bookmark this thread and look at it again on my 25th birthday.

for future reference, is it a good cycle for someone 25 years of age?

[dec11]

yet again, to see if it's a good cycle.

you seem to think you're a big boy and can decide for yourself so why ask us? no one will advise you as you are 21, and your attitude will get you banned. we advise to stay off gear at your age for a reason

[RaZr]

We will answer said question when it is asked by someone who needs to know

[MBMETC]

Your also 20 years younger than me and maybe I don't have a chiseled physique but I gaurentee you I will very soon because I listened to the people on this board that know what they are talking about and learned that diet is the most important thing to make you grow not steroids. Stick around and you will see I'm 5'9" 195 16% bf and dropping I don't need steroids to get what I want only diet and training because I built a base first.

[SlimmerMe]

OP: are you a body builder?

[arsowat]

OP: are you a body builder?

nope, just a guy who wants to have a great physique