my current cycle- what do you think?

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

on my 3rd cycle, gonna be a 12 week cycle, depends on my blood worrk @ week 8 .just starded test p 100 mg eod wanna add winni or oral tren towards the end. if i run winni ill do 50-100mg at my last 4 weeks,
if i run oral tren il run 500mcg to 1mg ed. what do you guys think? my goals are to lean bulk,with possilbe fat loss and lots of vascularness!

my last cycle was dbol(1-4)-test e (1-10)500mg-and winni. (6-8)
is my new cycle tooo mild? never ran oral tren, would try eq, but dont wanna run it and not see squat.(but i do have 2 bottles of it )

thx

[MACHINE5150]

what are your previous cycles and stats?? hard to tell just by your avi...

i recomend running tren A or E with it, rather than taking it orally.. tran acetate if you can get it and do daily injections of at least 50mg of each if not 75mg..

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

what are your previous cycles and stats?? hard to tell just by your avi...

i recomend running tren A or E with it, rather than taking it orally.. tran acetate if you can get it and do daily injections of at least 50mg of each if not 75mg..

well my first was test e, 500 per week for `10 weeks. normal pct. nolva clo.
my second was dbol50mg ed(1-4)test e500mg (1-10) and winni 50ed(6-10)

my second cycle made winni my fav.! have great strength and got vascular with it as well.

and yea , how much less liver kidney toxic is injct tren compard to oral?

thx machine

[MACHINE5150]

how much less liver kidney toxic is injct tren compard to oral?

I am not positive.. but i know that Tren Methyl (oral tren) is much worse for you than injectible.. injecting is just a much better way all around to take anything, you get more out of less and it is always easier on the liver.. i can't tell you if it is 3 times or 10 times worse i just know it is worse.. i would recomend:

week 1-8 Test Prop 50 mg ED
week 1-8 Tren Acetate 50mg ED
week 5-8 winni 50mg ED

regular PCT.. you can stretch it to 9, ten or even 12 weeks if you want.. but i think 8 weeks will give you what you need, these are fast acting and powerful esters.. and the more and more i read the more i hear that shorter burst cycles are a better way to go.. if you do time off=time on + PCT you can do three cycles a year compared to just two

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

I am not positive.. but i know that Tren Methyl (oral tren) is much worse for you than injectible.. injecting is just a much better way all around to take anything, you get more out of less and it is always easier on the liver.. i can't tell you if it is 3 times or 10 times worse i just know it is worse.. i would recomend:

week 1-8 Test Prop 50 mg ED
week 1-8 Tren Acetate 50mg ED
week 5-8 winni 50mg ED

regular PCT.. you can stretch it to 9, ten or even 12 weeks if you want.. but i think 8 weeks will give you what you need, these are fast acting and powerful esters.. and the more and more i read the more i hear that shorter burst cycles are a better way to go.. if you do time off=time on + PCT you can do three cycles a year compared to just two

yea, sounds good just gotta get my tren and winni. and yea id stretch it maybe 2 more weeks, winni atke 2 weeeks to kick in for me. thks machine!

[Tigershark]

If I read this right you are going to do a third cycle within 34 weeks?!
If this is correct you are seriously going to hurt yourself because you are too young and you are not letting you body recover.
Can some vets help me out here?

[MBMETC]

If I read this right you are going to do a third cycle within 34 weeks?!
If this is correct you are seriously going to hurt yourself because you are too young and you are not letting you body recover.
Can some vets help me out here?

I don't red that time frame anywhere, but I agree if it's correct that wouldn't be wise.

[Tigershark]

I don't red that time frame anywhere, but I agree if it's correct that wouldn't be wise.

He posted in May he was getting ready for his first cycle. It is now Febuary which adds up to 34 weeks. If this is his 3rd cycle and let us say each cycle is 12 weeks. (sure some were 8) You need to add in a proper PCT which is 4 weeks. Typical rule of thumb is time on + PCT = time off.
He should not be starting his 3rd cycle until 96 weeks!

[MBMETC]

He posted in May he was getting ready for his first cycle. It is now Febuary which adds up to 34 weeks. If this is his 3rd cycle and let us say each cycle is 12 weeks. (sure some were 8) You need to add in a proper PCT which is 4 weeks. Typical rule of thumb is time on + PCT = time off.
He should not be starting his 3rd cycle until 96 weeks!

i agree
azgold can you lay out your cycle history with dates

[Tigershark]

i agree
azgold can you lay out your cycle history with dates

Thank you.

[Tigershark]

Waiting Azgold. We are only trying to help you.

[Tigershark]

Surprised he hasn't posted his cycle history. Beginning to think I called him on his math. I hope I am wrong.