Short cycle: Prop/Tbol, Tbol/Anavar, Anavar/Dbol...?

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I'm tired of those long cycles, as specially with test the sides are nasty. Test cycle always gives me nasty bacne, make me sweat like a madman and the recovery feels hard - also I'm very prone to MPB and already lost hair on cycles so I'm trying to minimize the effect on the hairline.

I'm plannin on doing short 4 to 6 week cycles, maybe 1-2 of those this spring. I like the idea that you are 110% for few weeks and then back to normal, makes your life lot easier.


Any experience guys? Is it true that in short cycle you won't get that much acne and other sides, and recovery is easier?

OR is it the same hell everytime, same recovery process after 4 weeks or 12weeks..? In that case there is no sense.


I'm thinking about:


#1 Test Prop 150mg/EOD for 4weeks, with some anabolic addition.
I know it's gonna be a living hell with the sweating, but maybe that could be handled for 4weeks..

I did a 6weeker of Prop 100mg/EOD at one point, but I was very disappointed - almost no gains at all, just sweating and feeling horny!
So maybe with extra Tbol 20-30mg/d, or maybe even Dbol 20-30mg/d?


#2 Oral combo, I know the recovery from these is always easy and I never get acne, my own experience.

Tbol is great, but as in the other topic came out I can't use it in big doses, anything over 30mg/d makes my breathing very hard, and man it makes me bleed easily, just a little scratch in hand and it can drip for hours.

So one option could be a combo of Anavar+Tbol together, like 40(A)+20(TB)..? Any experience?

Some seem to use Anavar+Dbol cycles, how's this one? Dbol is stronger than tbol so this could have some nice gains, and maybe anavar controls the possible fat gain/bloat from the Dbol too. What do you think?


- I know oral combo is easiest to HPTA, but what do you think is easiest to blood lipids?

- What do you think is easiest to hairline? Prop + oral, or 2 orals?

- Is Dbol actually so hard on the hairline as they say? I remember that my first cycle was dbol only and I lost almost no hair but it was years ago - however at latest anavar+test e cycle I lost almost an inch of my hairline.

- Anybody actually DONE these, two orals and prop+oral, how would you compare those? I'm very interested to hear!

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Oh and how about the PCT. I have usually done HCG in the end of test cycles, and then 2 to 3 weeks of Nolva after that. If I do an 4-6week oral only, I was thinking about 7-10days Nolva PCT. How about if I do test prop with something, 2weeks nolva enough?

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You need to post stats for cycle advice .


Not sure how many cycles you did to get poor results .
If it was the prop @ 100/mg eod . Then that maybe the answer .

Also you have to consider your source . 1 UGL maybe over dosed or correct and the other can be under . This is not uncommon .

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26years, 184cm and 100kg (around 200-210lbs I guess?), training 7years, done 2 test cycles where there was dbol/tbol/anavar attached (not all at same time of course!) and then also one dbol-only, and one anavar-only.

My source is not a problem, as I do lab test every drug I use. All have been top quality and exactly dosed.

I didn't say the results were poor, I got pretty nice results from each cycle, but I just said the sides and recovery on those longer test cycles is a bitch.

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So to the original question, has anybody tried those combos I listed, so you could compare those? And all other experience about short 4-6week bursts is welcome.

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No one has tried any of these?