Sus and decca and pct

[papacake]

Alright folkes i have just started a new cycle of sus and deca, when should i start seeing improvements!?!?!? I was taking whinny but changed my mind after 4 weeks. Ive just done my second injection, the first on last thursday hurt for a few days im asuming thats cause of the sus in it??? Ive read up on this forum about it but what should i do or take to make sure i can still get it up???? Im also runnin dbol and letrozole for the bitch tits lol

Any help or advise would be great guys????

Im 29 200 pounds and about 20% bf

[D7M]

Is this your first cycle?

I'm sorry, but this whole thing sounds like a train wreck:

Your body fat is too high, which tells me you think steroids will replace hard work and diet.
You probably don't need letro.
You should stick to one compound (sust).

[papacake]

Nah mate im guessing my body fat man, and i eat sensibly 6x small meals of 40-50 grams of protein mate i have the diet nailed i have dropped two stone. I do have a decent shape and build starting to get good definition across chest shoulders and traps so just looking for my first cycle to get max goals. If i have left anything out just ask i will respond mate. Erm maybe this will help i was almost 18 stone now im 16, im in the gym maybe 3-5 times a week depending on work commitments. My mate is using and has done for 20 years he is in his 40s so knows a lot just wanted to bounce it out here cause folk are always happy to help..... My weights have improved im benchim 90 kilos dead lifting and squattin 140 so i have a good weight and im training and eatting good..... If ive missed anything please ask a need advise bro

[MBMETC]

Your experienced friend can't advise you on pct? Not trying to be a dick but if his experience stretches over 20 yrs he should certainly know how to pct. Read the pct stickies and post up a proposed pct for critique.

[papacake]

I have asked him and he has the stuff there for me i just never realised all the sides man!!! I cant affored to get limp lol!!! Its just my first cycle on this and after reading up on here today im getting concerns!!! To be honest i dunno what the tablets he has for me he just talked me threw what to do and done my first injection for me then gave me a list of what to do and when to take. We are mates and have been for over ten years not just a dealer and a buyer so he wouldnt **** me over. And as i said he has everythin for me just looked on here today and was like god!!!

[MBMETC]

What are the doses your running, limp dick should not be an issue if your running sufficiant test. as far as on cycle ai's are concerned you can use l-dex and pct should include nolvadex and clomid all of which can be ordered from AR-R the banner on the top of the page.

[papacake]

I took 100ml of deca today and on thursday i take 100ml of deca and 100ml of sus.

And thats what il do for ten weeks mate. Is this fine??? And cheers al look for them and make sure he is givin me the right stuff etc. I was on a few site and as long as im getting something with Estrogen in it!?!?!?!? Is that right. Im in scotland will the site at the top ship there?? Im on my iphone al check later man cheers

[magicstick2003]

100 ml? Unless your gear is dosed at less than 5mg/ml then that has to be a typ-o... you'd have to inject like 10 different spots to get it all in..... I'm hoping maybe you mean MG not ML

[papacake]

Mate it is its one ml i read the syringe wrong sorry. So one ml deca on a monday one ml deca and one ml sus on a thursday

[MBMETC]

so your taking 400mgs of deca and 250mgs of sust per week, is this correct?

[magicstick2003]

thank goodness. If MB is correct you may want to consider upping you test to avoid limp dick as some people have issues if test is lower than deca. With that being sad. you may want to consider doing a little more cardio and getting the diet in check. Prior to this cycle. What are your goals anyway, bulk or cut? Regardless of the goal remember also that diet is going to 90% of achieving those goals. Everyone seems to think that working out/AS/Supps are what get you to were you wanna be. Diet is the key which everything else revolves around!

[MBMETC]

OP you need to tell us the exact consintration of your gear, i'll assume the sust is 250mgs/ml and the deca could vary but most are 200mgs/ml or 250mgs/ml please tell us what you have and you pinning schedule, your responces are confusing.

[Far from massive]

With all respect to those posting, and the OP's mate,

D7M has posted the only good advice so far. There is no reason to run more than one compound at this point and the advice from the friend is terrible if he has you running more Deca than Test and using a Dbol kicker too boot.

I also noticed that you said you ran winny for 4wks...did you just switch to the Dbol, Sust, and Deca or did you run a proper PCT and take time off (say 8wks after you finished PCT) before starting the current regimen? If so the problem get substantially worse, you need to run Deca for 10wks or more for good results. While running Deca for 10wk and Sust for 12 (to let the deca clear in a test rich environment) is a very suppressive cycle that should only be used by someone with several cycles under their belts. Now you add in the Dbol kicker and that makes it a little worse but on top of that if you have not taken proper time off after the winny or just switched compounds...now you really are jumping into the deep end.

I wish you all the best whatever course you choose, however if you have not taken proper time off after the winny then just go ahead and stop the cycle and run proper pct and time off then run a straight test cycle ( you can use your sust if you want) on the other hand if you have taken time off after your winny cycle then just go ahead and dump the deca and save it for down the road. You will see great gains with just the sust, one other thing worth mentioning is that Deca is mainly used as a bulking drug its not really well suited to someone who has high bodyfat.

Best wishes,

FFM

[papacake]

Ok the deca is 100mg/ml and the sus is 300mg/ml. Im using the deca on a monday and thursday and only using the sus on a thursday......

Im wanting to gain muscle and keep the body ft low.....

[MBMETC]

i wouldnt be concerned with dic6 problems with those deca doses infact i wouldnt worry bout anything deca sides related at 200mgs pw. that is a low dose for deca but may suit for your goals. keep in mind diet and training will dictate fat loss not your gear