Legal question

[warlord_wang]

I was wondering what if you got caught with 100 to 200 grams of powder how much time would you get?

[taboo-09]

depends on the country

[number twelve]

arent laws pretty serious in norway? or sweden? somewhere around there!! better do some research buddy

[warlord_wang]

I'm in the USA

[Hazard]

I'm sure the US would slam you.....

Probably get nailed with intent to manufacture and distribute too.....

~Haz~

[BIG NICE]

What about a smaller amount, say a 20 mg bottle of test or something that could only be considered personal use. The laws are pretty stiff I know, for no good reason either. No way it should be in the same category as hard narcotics.

[army_cobra]

I have a friend get busted with some gear, well actually it was his girlfriend she had it in her purse. Lets just say it didnt turn out to good.

[Hazard]

Theres a lot of factors.....

- prior record

- the cop

- the posecutor

- the judge

- your defense attorney

Theres too many factors to tell what would happen. If you're willing to take the risk...... understand what COULD happen.

~Haz~

[songdog]

Just check the laws ehere your at.They differ.But in the Us like Haz said U F--Ked

[warlord_wang]

Ok say if I was getting them from another country through ups etc would I get hit with importation too?

[tmtulcs]

If you are purchasing from a certified manufacture they (China/India/Pakistan) will ship it under a mislabeled non controlled substance with the proper paperwork to clear customs if checked. It would help if it was going to an existing buisness/manufacture with import history. If this is your fist time importing for buisness purposes there is paperwork you should do for tarrifs, but Customs can just charge it to your EIN. If you choose to ship to your house, SSN or a 1 month old EIN, well flip of a coin if the FDA takes notice. If you use a fake EIN to be clever, you will get a phone call from UPS or FEDEX for a valid number or they will return it to the sender.
Make sure you discuss your preferrences with the manufacturer. Also, 200 grams is a small amount. You would probably be better off ordering 2Kg or more. I can recall ordering any chemicals under a Kg.

[tmtulcs]

I am sorry, just after I posted realized you were not in the US. I would imagine the process is similar, but I know nothing about the import process for Norway.

[Tigershark]

In the US you would get hammered for sure.

[warlord_wang]

Thank you for all the answers -_-

[warlord_wang]

If you are purchasing from a certified manufacture they (China/India/Pakistan) will ship it under a mislabeled non controlled substance with the proper paperwork to clear customs if checked. It would help if it was going to an existing buisness/manufacture with import history. If this is your fist time importing for buisness purposes there is paperwork you should do for tarrifs, but Customs can just charge it to your EIN. If you choose to ship to your house, SSN or a 1 month old EIN, well flip of a coin if the FDA takes notice. If you use a fake EIN to be clever, you will get a phone call from UPS or FEDEX for a valid number or they will return it to the sender.
Make sure you discuss your preferrences with the manufacturer. Also, 200 grams is a small amount. You would probably be better off ordering 2Kg or more. I can recall ordering any chemicals under a Kg.

great answer & great idea also my funds aren't great enough to order 2kg of powder.

[dmk327]

Probably a fine and confiscation

[Hazard]

Ok say if I was getting them from another country through ups etc would I get hit with importation too?

More importantly..... Who's the owner of that huge ass in your avy?

~Haz~

[vaders4]

Haz you just took the words out of my mouth.

[Honkey_Kong]

The laws depend on the state you live in and whether or not the federal government is going to prosecute. But a friend of mine's uncle was caught dealing other drugs red handed out of his house, he ended up doing 6 months and that was with 2 prior major felonies.

[iGoHard508]

The number of anabolic steroid investigations and prosecutions has risen dramatically. Ten years ago, a large proportion of steroid criminal cases involved personal use posession. Many cases arose out of international mail Customs seizures. Today, federal law enforcement has effectively shifted its focus from users to dealers. Sweeping federal efforts like Operation Gear Grinder and Operation Raw Deal have resulted in the arrest and prosecution of a sizable chunk of the American steroid trafficking network.

Whether the investment of massive federal resources will ultimately translate into a reduction in the size of the U.S. steroid black market is an unknown. Successful interdiction on one front may only exert a temporary crunch on the market; with time, the black market may simply adapt and continue. Meanwhile, many of those arrested in steroid trafficking cases are gainfully employed, otherwise law-abiding citizens.

The startling truth is that many people being arrested today for anabolic steroids are quite similar in background to your friends and neighbors. They are sometimes former or current steroid users themselves who are also selling the hormones to others. In some cases, though, they are merely users of the drugs -- otherwise law-abiding mature adults who are using steroids for personal cosmetic improvement. I've been contacted, consulted or retained by literally hundreds of these individuals, many of whom are caught when their steroids are intercepted in the mail by U.S. Customs or Postal Inspectors. Overwhelmingly, they're neither teenagers nor competitive athletes -- the two populations the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 1990 (later expanded in 2004) was intended to target. Nevertheless, American law enforcement authorities are pursuing these folks with enhanced vigor. I have seen a person arrested for selling just one vial of steroids to a former training partner turned police informer, and another for possessing just 15 stanozolol tablets and a near-empty bottle of testosterone. All too often, personal users are erroneously charged as dealers.

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How am I most likely to get arrested for steroids?

Traditionally, the most likely way to get arrested for any drug charge, including steroids, was probably for selling them to someone who has his own legal problems and is secretly cooperating with law enforcement. You might get a call from an old gym acquaintance asking if you can get him a few vials of steroids. A meeting will be arranged, your old pal will bring along an undercover cop, and you'll be arrested on the spot or after a few further deals. Under federal law and the laws of many states, selling steroids, or possessing them with intent to sell, is a felony. An individual who sells steroids unlawfully, or possesses unlawfully with intent to sell, is punishable by up to five years in prison for a first offense (up to ten as of mid-April 2009) and up to seven years in prison under New York state law. Every state's laws are different.

Of course, whether an individual serves any prison time for selling steroids depends upon numerous factors including but not limited to the person's past criminal history, the strength of the prosecution's case, the person's role in the offense, and how effectively the case is either negotiated or litigated by defense counsel. An experienced criminal lawyer can make the difference.

What are my chances of being arrested just for personal use possession?

Small-time arrests for personal possession do occur. Sometimes these arrests arise out of car stops for traffic violations and the steroids are found during a search of the car. Car searches are frequent at border crossings, where law enforcement authorities searching for drugs are less restricted by Fourth Amendment constraints. I recently successfully defended two steroid cases in which my clients' cars were stopped and thoroughly searched at U.S. land borders (New York/Canada and Texas/Mexico).

However, the fastest-growing way of getting busted for personal steroid use is by ordering them over the Internet to receive them in the mail. I have been consulted or retained on hundreds of cases of this type. Those who order mail-order steroids run the risk that the delivery can be intercepted by U.S. Customs or postal authorities, precipitating an investigation and potentially an arrest. Many otherwise law-abiding mature adults have been arrested based on their receipt of anabolics through the mail. Many others were contacted by government agents who confiscated the steroid delivery but did not make an arrest. There is little uniformity in the way these cases are handled across the country, although overall mail volume seems to be a factor. U.S. Customs agents in metropolitan New York, for example, might handle a personal use amount very differently than Customs agents in rural Alabama.

While the vast majority of users (recently estimated as high as 6 million Americans!) probably don't get caught, you could be one of the unlucky few. Since the enactment of the federal Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 1990, expanded by Congress in 2004, steroids are in the same legal class -- Schedule III -- as barbiturates, LSD precursors, veterinary tranquilizers like ketamine and narcotic painkillers like Vicodin. Simple unlawful possession is a federal offense punishable by up to one year in prison and/or a minimum fine of $1,000 for a first offense (most states have added anabolic steroids to their schedules of controlled substances). Even if a jail sentence is ultimately avoided, the consequences of an arrest alone include being handcuffed, fingerprinted, and hauled before a judge for arraignment in open court. There will likely be legal expenses and even forfeiture of seized assets. A criminal conviction may prevent or interfere with employment opportunities in many fields such as law enforcement, and members of certain professions involving licensing (physicians, lawyers, dentists, pharmacists, teachers, nurses, cosmetologists, public accountants, architects, auctioneers, barbers, and licensed counselors, just to name a few) can expect a conviction to be reported to their state licensing authority, placing current employment in jeopardy. A drug conviction can suspend a person's driver's license (it's mandatory in some jurisdictions) and be a bar to the ability to own a firearm. Unquestionably, the assistance of experienced legal counsel is your best defense against these potential consequences.

Will the police try to get me to "cooperate" with them?

People who get arrested for controlled substances are often pressured to work with the agents who arrested them or with other law enforcement authorities to assist in the identification, investigation, arrest and prosecution of others involved in criminal activity. Known to law enforcement as "confidential informants" (but to their former friends and associates as "rats" and "snitches"), they cooperate in return for more lenient plea or sentence bargains. It is not uncommon for the police or federal agents to squeeze the many "small fish" they arrest into giving up their sources, leading to the arrests of bigger fish who, in turn, are squeezed to give up their sources. Whether the police seek to recruit a person as an informant depends upon a combination of many factors. Deciding whether it is something an arrested person should consider doing requires a risk-to-benefit analysis and extensive consultation with an experienced criminal lawyer.

Will I be charged in state or federal court?

In most states, both state and federal laws prohibit anabolic steroids, and a person can be prosecuted under either. In which court the case is brought often depends on the agency responsible for your arrest, and on the seriousness of the charges. Because of the way that steroid quantities are calculated under the federal sentencing guidelines, many cases with potential federal jurisdiction are dumped in state or local courts where sentencing may be much more severe. Even investigations begun by federal authorities like the Postal Inspector and U.S. Customs are most often brought in state court, not in federal court. This is particularly the case if the quantity is small and there is no indication of intent to distribute. In rare circumstances, you can be charged in both state and federal court with the same conduct.

What are my chances of going to jail?

A very important question, but one that is impossible to answer without knowing the specifics in a given case. Critical factors include, but are not limited to, the amounts of steroids involved and your prior criminal record. In our experience, few first-time offenders charged with mere possession for personal use are sentenced to jail in the New York state courts. Sellers are treated more harshly. In federal courts, the quantity involved is crucial under the United States Sentencing Guidelines. In state courts, various other factors can apply. You should know the law and potential sentencing range that applies in your state.

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