How much Tren do I take

[Burneagle1]

I have Tren Ace 100mg. I Didnt realize it was one that has to be taken more often through out the week. Next I will try Tren E. Since I have it, If I put it in a stack that consists of
Tren 100
Test C 200
Deca 300

How much of the Tren would I take, and how often would I take it. I mean what is the min that I can get by with.

[fit2bOld]

Do you really need all 3 compounds?
2 19 nors will set you for side effects, mostly estrogen related

That said 100 mg every other day would equate to 350 mg weekly average.
Or save it for another time.

[tice1212]

This is too funny.. I just had two idiots in the last two weeks came up to me saying that their running this same exact cycle.. This must be the new cycle sources are pushing over here on the east coast.. 2 19nor compounds = trouble.. Let me guess u have no AI or HCG?

[kelkel]

Burneagle what's your cycle history and stats?

[Burneagle1]

This is too funny.. I just had two idiots in the last two weeks came up to me saying that their running this same exact cycle.. This must be the new cycle sources are pushing over here on the east coast.. 2 19nor compounds = trouble.. Let me guess u have no AI or HCG?

Ok, well I dont know the science of it, however; my reason for the post is to get helpful info, because I lack the knowledge. That stack is a sample stack out of a well known book. So I dont find my post that idiotic. Noobs join to get helpful info, not to get bashed or receive sarcasm. You sir represent the exact reason for others not to post anything or be hesitant. And you have proved that. That is all your response was good for. I thank the others for their response and courtesy.

[Burneagle1]

I appreciate the input. I had gotten a couple of injectables that ive never experienced because I know that ur body gets used to the same stuff, therefore; the results dont reach maximal potential. So I thought I would try something to change it up.
Where would Tren fit in a stack?
Where would Masteron fit in a stack?
These are two im not familiar with and I have them so where do they fit best. I dont plan on using them in the same stack.
Thanx again for your response earlier.

[Khazima]

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-steroids.html

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I had gotten a couple of injectables that ive never experienced because I know that ur body gets used to the same stuff, therefore; the results dont reach maximal potential.

I believe you are wrong.
One's body doesn't get used to the same stuff...
If that were the case then we would all be screwed...
I mean, hell, I've had testosterone in my body my entire life, why am I not immune to it by now?

[Burneagle1]

Maximum results. Im not saying that your body builds immunity to it. If the receptors in your body dont build some kind of tolerance. Then shouldnt we be able to get by with 200mg of test a week. Why do we have to increase the amount we inject. Again, I dont know the science behind it. Just seeking info.

[Burneagle1]

100mg every other day. 350 weekly. Thank you

[HawaiiLifr]

Where would Tren fit in a stack?
Where would Masteron fit in a stack?
These are two im not familiar with and I have them so where do they fit best. I dont plan on using them in the same stack.

Actually that is a good stack, Tren/Mast. Deca/Tren doesn't make much sense.

[qscgugcsq]

Maximum results. Im not saying that your body builds immunity to it. If the receptors in your body dont build some kind of tolerance. Then shouldnt we be able to get by with 200mg of test a week. Why do we have to increase the amount we inject. Again, I dont know the science behind it. Just seeking info.

cause you can get away with 200mg.

androgen receptor upregulate with steroids meaning that the more and the longer you use you get more sensible to it.

the gains "stops" after a while for many reason unrelated to the receptor itself...
when you introduce 500mg of test for example.
you gain weight fast!!

First you gain water weight(which will halt and reach a max eventually)
that water weight is cause by estrogens, carbs partitionning, increased calorie intake. some steroid gives more water weight than others(anadrol/dbol).

After the gains slow... cause youve already gained a bit of muscle and the more lean mass you have, the harder it is to get more. so overtime gain will slow but wont stop.

the thing is... people do split routine mostly isolation works, and the only reason why that kind of training works is all the gear used...
if you train properly 200mg can get you huge.

but after a while you will need to adapt your progression you cant stay on a linear progression forever... the more advance you get the more advanced your training needs to be.

so you gain water and muscle.
water gains stop
mass gains slows
misadapted training
this create the need of huge amount of gear. not the receptor saturation...

[Burneagle1]

I am 5'9, Started natural for 2 years. Went from 140ibs to 175ibs with nutrition and cell tech. Then ventured out of the natural.
1st cycle sustanon 275 and dbol. Felt good pump. Reached 185ibs. ran 12 weeks/ no side effects
2nd cycle eq 250 and test cyp 250 and dbol. reached 200ibs/ some back acne. ran 12 weeks
Then wife and kid. So this is all in a span of 10yrs. On and off in the gym. However; I have made great results natural and with the other. Those cycles were back to back with 12wks in between.

[Burneagle1]

That is good info. Really. I got to say that I am just out to look good, not compete. Therefore I wont need a doctorate in anabolics. Good info, thanx

[qscgugcsq]

That is good info. Really. I got to say that I am just out to look good, not compete. Therefore I wont need a doctorate in anabolics. Good info, thanx

most Bodybuilder are clueless about gear...

the goal is not to become the next big name in hormonal science.

the goal.is just to know enough to be able to do it safely.

[tice1212]

Ok, well I dont know the science of it, however; my reason for the post is to get helpful info, because I lack the knowledge. That stack is a sample stack out of a well known book. So I dont find my post that idiotic. Noobs join to get helpful info, not to get bashed or receive sarcasm. You sir represent the exact reason for others not to post anything or be hesitant. And you have proved that. That is all your response was good for. I thank the others for their response and courtesy.

You have to be kidding me. maybe i think its so fvcking funny how u are putting shit into ur body that u have NO CLUE what it does or what it will do to u.. So don't come here talking sh*t because u didn't do ur research and just listen to idiots in the gym. Do some research d*ck.

Plus i didn't respond to u, i was stating a fact in my last post..

Like i asked before are u running an AI or HCG. I was trying to get info from u to help u..

[lovbyts]

cause you can get away with 200mg.

androgen receptor upregulate with steroids meaning that the more and the longer you use you get more sensible to it.

the gains "stops" after a while for many reason unrelated to the receptor itself...
when you introduce 500mg of test for example.
you gain weight fast!!

First you gain water weight(which will halt and reach a max eventually)
that water weight is cause by estrogens, carbs partitionning, increased calorie intake. some steroid gives more water weight than others(anadrol/dbol).

After the gains slow... cause youve already gained a bit of muscle and the more lean mass you have, the harder it is to get more. so overtime gain will slow but wont stop.

the thing is... people do split routine mostly isolation works, and the only reason why that kind of training works is all the gear used...
if you train properly 200mg can get you huge.

but after a while you will need to adapt your progression you cant stay on a linear progression forever... the more advance you get the more advanced your training needs to be.

so you gain water and muscle.
water gains stop
mass gains slows
misadapted training
this create the need of huge amount of gear. not the receptor saturation...

Very nice write up qscgugcsq. Good explanation.

You have to be kidding me. maybe i think its so fvcking funny how u are putting shit into ur body that u have NO CLUE what it does or what it will do to u.. So don't come here talking sh*t because u didn't do ur research and just listen to idiots in the gym. Do some research d*ck.

Plus i didn't respond to u, i was stating a fact in my last post..

Like i asked before are u running an AI or HCG. I was trying to get info from u to help u..

^^^^ You are starting to sound like me. Every so often I have to leave the Q&A section for a few days or a couple of weeks because seeing the same questions day after day it's easy to get upset about the OPs carefree attitude.

[fosterm]

Running tren a.eod at 3.5 days out of 7 or eod for you complete cycle not basing it by the week but the cycle