to front load or not to front load

[kanamesan]

Wandering if I should front on first cycle or not. Her is my first cycle:


Weeks 1-10: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (2 injections of 250mg, Sunday Morning Wednesday night)


Weeks 1-4: 30mg of Dbol per day (split in two doses, one pre workout, one 12 hours later)


Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)


Weeks 4-12: 500iu's of HCG per week (2 injections of 250iu's, same days as test, but not in the same syringe)


Pct:

Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day


Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day


And if I do front load by how much should I front load and how much extra test-e should I get

[kanamesan]

Any tips?

[magic32]

That's an aggressive first cycle (four drugs)!
Why the AI and HCG, they're usually prn/as needed meds, not automatic first cycle/stack ingredients?
What are your stats, including training history?

[Pac Man]

I don't think that's overboard at all for a first cycle, in fact I think it's kind of smart that he's using HCG and ADex.
I will agree that the ADex should be used as needed. I don't like to start off on week 1 but everyone is different.
The HCG I say go forth and become one with your testes, it's a good addition to any recovery.
I would stop the HCG after your last pin of test instead of running it until PCT.
No need to front load, I tried it and even with my unlimited supply of gear I find it's kind of a waste and unnecessary especially for a first timer, besides you're running dbol for your kicker.

[kanamesan]

This thread was actually a mistake. For some reason my comp. Added this one after I made the first one. Sorry.
But I couldn't find hcg so I kicked that out. Thanks for the tips you should add them to the first thread if possible please

[HALTEH]

i dont really feel like looking for your other thread, so .. hopefully this gets to you.

Cycle looks good, I ran the exact same thing a few months ago for my first cycle. My advice tho, is just keep the A-Dex on hand, dont use it unless nessecarry. It'll hinder gains my really lowering estrogen and possibly getting you sick. (your immune system needs estro, same with muscles for growth)

So again, only use if estrogenic sides get to be too much. hcg, you can run how ever u want. I did it the two weeks in between my last shot and my PCT

[kanamesan]

Thank you for the tips everyone. Please keep giving more

[gymfu]

Yea using an AI and hcg is smart. They are doing totaly different things.
I don't think front loading is worth it, I've tried it both ways and didn't see anything kick in sooner. Just a wast of gear in my opinion.
Cycle looks good.

[kanamesan]

Had to drop hcg on account of not finding it haha. Thanks

[Far from massive]

For sure don't front a first cycle no need and the rapid rise in blood levels will make aromatization and sides that much more likely. HCG would be a great thing....Keep looking :-) as you don't need to run much till wk 4 then as said run it at 250IU's twice a week until the last pin of test. Also same deal on the AI start a very small dose around wk 3 and gradually increase the dose to a maximum at wk 5- end of cycle, keep in mind that you should only use as much AI as needed as too little Estro will lessen gains. Bloodwork is the best way to judge of course but also look at any emotional behaviour as a warning sign.. once you learn what to look for this will usually show up way before sore nipples etc.

[stpete]

I agree w/magic32. Guess we're not going to get those stats.

[kanamesan]

I believe my stats are in my profile