Gurus Please check my work (Cycle)

[1_Grendel]

Could the ones educated & experienced (forum gurus) please check my work?

I have about 5-6 months before my bf% gets to the recommended % before I start a cycle.
I have been reading and putting together a plan on what will be needed in both products and financial. I need to plan for the expense of this and if I have done all this right then I can start squirreling away the money and hopefully have it all together when the time comes and I still want to do a cycle. (I am big into planning things out).

Let me know if the cycle looks ok and whether I did my math right on the doses & quantity needed.

I have other questions that are very specific to my circumstances,,, will ask those later.

Stats:

44 year old male
205-110lb, 5’11” (weight varies). Down from a max weight of 250lb.
On 2.5mg Androgel
Low Test 171(actual test result before Androgel was prescribed)
bf%??? (dont really know.)

BMR figured at 25%bf, 208lb: 1901
Cal. figured with a 1.2 multiplier, 2282, at multiplier of 1.5, 2852

Diet %: Pro40%, Carb 39%, Fat 19%, Tcal 2200 (same basic diet as with the Challenge). Can give full diet plan if asked.

Like I said I would like to do this cycle in 5-6 months once my bf% gets lower and I have the funds.

Cycle:

Week 1-12 LiquiDex .25mg-.50mg

Week 1- 2 Test E 250mg/week (see how I do)
Week 3-10 Test E 500mg (250mg mon./250mg thurs.)
Week 11-12 Test E 250mg

Will start clen/t3 on week 5

Day 1 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 2 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 3 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 4 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 5 Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 6 Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 7 Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg
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Day 8 Clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 9 Clen 100mcg/ T3 75mcg
Day10 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
Day11 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
Day12 Clen 100mcg/ T3 100mcg
Day13 Clen 100mcg/ T3 100mcg
Day14 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
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Day15 Clen off/ T3 100mcg
Day16 Clen off/ T3 125mcg
Day17 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day18 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day19 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day20 Clen off/ T3 125mcg
Day21 Clen off / T3 125mcg
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Day22 Clen 80mcg/ T3 125mcg
Day23 Clen 80mcg/ T3 125mcg
Day24 Clen 80mcg / T3 125mcg
Day25 Clen 100mcg / T3 125mcg
Day26 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
Day27 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
Day28 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
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Day29 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day30 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day31 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
Day32 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
Day33 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
Day34 Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
Day35 Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
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Day36 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day37 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day38 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day39 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day40 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day41 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day42 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day43 none

PCT( 2 weeks after last Test pin/per day):

Nolva/Tamox 40/40/20/20 (Week/per Day)
Clomid 100/100/50/50 (Week/per day)

Clen explanation: I know Clen standard procedure is 2 on 2 off but, due to me taking Benadryl 75mg-100mg each night to get some sleep and the reading I have been doing I (think??? Open for correction) that 1 week off while taking Benadryl would be ok.


Doses Calculation (Desired Dose/Available Dose)(Quanity/1)= Volume to be Given/Taken
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Test E: 1ml - 250mg, 10 vials $????, http://www....

week 1-2 use 2 vials
week 3-10 use 16 vials (1 vial on Monday 1 vial on Thursday)
week 11-12 use 2 vials

Total needed is 20 Ampoules/Vials
Total Quantity Ampoules 20 @ 250mg/per, sold in lots of 10
2 X ??= $??.??
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Clen: 30mL - 200mcg/mL $??.?? http://www....

Doses
60mcg = .3mL, total of 8 doses, total needed 2.4mL
80mcg = .4mL, total of 8 doses, Total Needed 3.2mL
100mcg = .5mL, Total of 11 doses, Total needed 5.5mL
120mcg = .6mL, Total of 10 doses, Total needed 6mL

Total needed 17.1mL

1 Bottle

1 X $??.??= $??.??
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T3: 30ml 200mcg/mL $??.?? http://www...

Doses
25mcg = .125mL, total of 5 doses, Total needed .625mL
50mcg = .25mL, total of 5 doses, Total needed 1.25mL
75mcg = .375mL, total of 3 doses, Total needed 1.125mL
100mcg = .5mL, total of 5 doses, Total needed 2.5mL
125mcg = .625mL, total of 20 doses, Total needed 12.5mL

Total Needed 18mL

1 bottles

1 X $??.??=$??.??
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LiquiDex: 30mL-1mg/mL $??.?? http://www...

Dose

.25mg = .25mL, total of 84 doses, total needed 21mL
.50mg = .5mL, Total 84 doses, Total needed 42mL

.25mg total bottles 1
.5mg Total bottles 2

.25mg, 1 bottals X $??.??=$??.??
.5mg, 2 bottels X $??.??=$??.??

(would welcome recommendation .25 or .5 ???????)
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Clomi: 70ml - 35mg/mL, $??.?? http://www....

Dose

50mg = 1.43mL, Total of 14 Doses, total needed 20mL
100mg = 2.86mL Total of 14 Doses, Total needed 40mL

Total 60mL

Total Bottles needed 1

1 X $??.??= $??.??
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Nova/Tomox: 50ml - 20mg/mL, $??.?? http://www....

Dose

20mg = .4mg, Total of 14 Doses, total needed 5.6mg
40mg = .8mg, Total of 14 Doses, total needed 11.2mg

Total needed 16.8mg

1 bottle

1 x $??.?? = $??.??

Purchase:
Syringe with needle: 3cc/mL Syringe 25G x 1" 25/Pack $
http://www....

BD Oral Syringe 1cc/mL (without needle) 10/Pack #
http://www....

Needles: 23G x 1.5" 25/Pack $
http://www...
Needles: 25G x 1" 25/Pack $
http://www....


Some Educational reading material I have gone through:

How to Aspirate a syringe
http://www.tpub.com/content/armymedi...MD05520038.htm

Hypodermic syringe measurement

http://webtools.delmarlearning.com/s...1401831222.pdf

forums.steroid.com threads; among many others

How to properly measure and fully empty a syringe

LiquiDex: 18 gauge needle drop technique

[dec11]

in all honesty, do think anyone is going to be bothered reading all that?!

i will tell you the benadryl thing is broscience BS and that clen is overhyped crap, you'll do aswell without it.

you need to do away with those links aswell and also, you cant talk pricing on here

[chuckt12345]

got a headache 1/4 way through

[Lemonada8]

No need to taper the test e dose from 250 to 500 to 250. And if ur on androgel, and u dont mind shots request to go on TRT, then you can do a blast and cruise.

and the benadryl/clen thing isnt broscience, but its overrated IMO. it takes the place of a slack diet, and since ur not wanting to get way low bf% like competitive bbers, your diet should be enough. same with the t3. but if you feel you need the boost, go for it.

[1_Grendel]

No need to taper the test e dose from 250 to 500 to 250. And if ur on androgel, and u dont mind shots request to go on TRT, then you can do a blast and cruise.

and the benadryl/clen thing isnt broscience, but its overrated IMO. it takes the place of a slack diet, and since ur not wanting to get way low bf% like competitive bbers, your diet should be enough. same with the t3. but if you feel you need the boost, go for it.

Thanks Lemon I appreciate the feed back.

As to the TRT and getting off of Androgel, the Dr. thinks I am good to go at a 241 "corrected" test level. I will have to see a specialist or change Drs to get something else going.

I saw a few others taper there Test e cycle and figured that was “the way to do it” if not needed then I will change accordingly.

Thanks for the Clen Benadryl info I will rearrange the cycle with a 2 week break.

i see there is a indication that i should drop the Clen & T3. i thought about that also but figured i would put together the “wish cycle” then scale back when the time comes.

Is my math right on the doses? i dont want to be another one of those guys that screws up the doses.

As to the others I go to the work of educating myself and put together a complete plan and I get ‘I got a headache” should I have just said “I want to use Test E, clen & T3 how do I do it?” those are the questions that are frowned upon,,, right?

How do I break up the first post so those that can help know I am doing all that I can to educate myself before I ask for help?

There are not any numbers/prices in the first post. I read the instructions and redacted the numbers and the sources (web sites) before I posted. I even played it safe by removing the ar-r source even though it is said to be safe to post; the only web sites that I left are informative sites.

No worries though, this is the net and a forum I am asking for help not paying for it. If I must I will continue to read and educate myself.

tks for taking the time

FYI: This is not a completely original plan though I have made educated changes to existing cycles; i dont see others referencing their cycle sources. If that is customary I will look through my info and reference were I obtained the cycle info.

[Lemonada8]

tapering is a old protocol, before PCT was popular knowledge and use.

The clen/benadryl issue, if you are going to use clen you will want to incorporate the use of benadryl because of its actions. That is explained in the stickies. However, all clen is, is a fancy ephedrine which keeps your HR and body heat up which burns more calories. using benadryl helps keep you from having to increase the dose because your body will adapt to the continous use of clen. same with all stimulants they lose their effectiveness after time. The benadryl is a antagonistic to the receptor and helps slow down your body which is against the stimulant.

If you arent looking to bypass your natural bf lower limit, then you should beable to accomplish what you want w/o the need of t3. if you are wanting to get down to like 4%bf then that would almost be needed.

i dont know the doses of clen/t3 that is something you can read up on in the proper forum, and others that know that can chime in here.

if you arent scared of injecting and wanna cut, then look into prop. it seems to help cut fat more than test e

be sure to add in HCG during ur cycle, it help srecovery

[dec11]

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[Lemonada8]

if you cant reply with a real response, please stop.

[songdog]

Dam is this guy long winded?

[1_Grendel]

tapering is a old protocol, before PCT was popular knowledge and use.

The clen/benadryl issue, if you are going to use clen you will want to incorporate the use of benadryl because of its actions. That is explained in the stickies. However, all clen is, is a fancy ephedrine which keeps your HR and body heat up which burns more calories. using benadryl helps keep you from having to increase the dose because your body will adapt to the continous use of clen. same with all stimulants they lose their effectiveness after time. The benadryl is a antagonistic to the receptor and helps slow down your body which is against the stimulant.

If you arent looking to bypass your natural bf lower limit, then you should beable to accomplish what you want w/o the need of t3. if you are wanting to get down to like 4%bf then that would almost be needed.

i dont know the doses of clen/t3 that is something you can read up on in the proper forum, and others that know that can chime in here.

if you arent scared of injecting and wanna cut, then look into prop. it seems to help cut fat more than test e

be sure to add in HCG during ur cycle, it help srecovery

Thanks

You are right I am not looking to drop my bf into single digits. I appreciate the summery of t3 and clen.

Defiantly not hesitant about injecting just insuring I have my ducks in a row. The test e I have lined up is injectable; I will look further into prop.

HCG: I have seen many cycles that do not include HCG and have seen others were it is added at the end (I week prior to PCT) of the cycle. Is adding HCG during the cycle new protocol?

[1_Grendel]

Ok, I looked into HCG and it seems many like to use it during cycle as a maintenance; to help keep the family jewels working. Seems about 500iu every 3 to 4 days.