test / masteron stack

[warren32]

Hello. Im thinkingof trying this whole thing out. I have test e 400? I want to do this first. If I want to take 400 a week does that mean I take 1 ml? Secondly I want to stack test masteron and tren later down the road what mg of each would u recommend?

[wizard1997]

By the way your thread reads you seem to have no clue about steroids. Do your self a big favor and educate yourself about steroids before you seriously consider doing a cycle. Theres lots of information on the web.

[warren32]

Yes you are right. I have never done them at all. From what I've researched im seeing that a test only is the best first cycle. I was wrong on the test, its 300mg/ml. Common sense would tell me that this means 300mgs for every ml injected. My question is ; is that right? And is 300 a good starting point? My second question is about the stack. I've read that this was a good combination, but with stacking do you keep the recommend mgs. Or do you reduce them when stacking?

[deeznutts]

go to the profiles page on the site and read up... most of the questions your asking will be answered there and more.

http://www.steroid.com/steroid_profiles.php

[MR10X]

I dont think 300 a week is enough,i would do 400 or 500 a week.300 wouldnt put you much over a high normal level to be worth doing.Masterone is not good for gaining size,it will make you look harder if you lean enough like 5% or lower body fat. I wouldnt use tren for your next cycle,its very harsh and has some severe side effects,you would be better adding something like Eq or Deca in your second cycle.

[warren32]

Thank you mr10x. Very helpful. For my second I would like something that will lean me out. Im 5'10 190 with not to much fat. I don't want to gain to much I would just like to be a lean 190-195. I figure 10-13 lbs of fat loss would suffice. Do you have any recommendations for something that would get me to that point,?

[songdog]

Bro you do need to educate yourself more before you do a cycle.Yes 300mg a week test is ok.Everyone now believes in mega dosing.Hell back in the 80s we cycled 250 and did fine.You need not worry about a stack.That comes later.Read on pct wat to do about gyno.Thats a start.

[The Titan99]

Stats would be good to know...

[MR10X]

Bro you do need to educate yourself more before you do a cycle.Yes 300mg a week test is ok.Everyone now believes in mega dosing.Hell back in the 80s we cycled 250 and did fine.You need not worry about a stack.That comes later.Read on pct wat to do about gyno.Thats a start.

Back in the 80's nobody did test only,we always stacked it with something else so 400-500mg of test isnt a mega dose,1000mg a week is a mega dose....

[MR10X]

Thank you mr10x. Very helpful. For my second I would like something that will lean me out. Im 5'10 190 with not to much fat. I don't want to gain to much I would just like to be a lean 190-195. I figure 10-13 lbs of fat loss would suffice. Do you have any recommendations for something that would get me to that point,?

Masteron wont make you leaner,you have to be lean to see its effects.You need to use diet to get your body fat down.

[The Titan99]

AAS is designed to GAIN weight. You see this over and over and it's never going to work out for these guys. If you think you need AAS to lose weight you are setting yourself up for failure, disappointment and maybe some tits you weren't bargaining for. Get your diet sorted or it's not going to work, period.

Still needing to know age, weight, height, BF%, work out experience, cycle experience...

[warren32]

.Im 24 190 5'10 roughly 12-15% bf I work out moderately 5 times a week. I don't lift heavy I tend to try to do as many reps as possible. No cycle experience

[gixxerboy1]

I dont think 300 a week is enough,i would do 400 or 500 a week.300 wouldnt put you much over a high normal level to be worth doing.Masterone is not good for gaining size,it will make you look harder if you lean enough like 5% or lower body fat. I wouldnt use tren for your next cycle,its very harsh and has some severe side effects,you would be better adding something like Eq or Deca in your second cycle.

plenty of people grow on 300. 100mg a week is normal trt so you are saying 3x the normal level wont be enough?
mast will only make you look harder if your 5%. 5%? seriously. Who is 5% except when they step on stage.
I've seen you give see real off the wall advice.

[chuckt12345]

OP,, just start reading all the red IMPORTANT threads at the top,, you will get better understanding of what you need to know and do.
BTW, i know people that gained 25lbs in 10 weeks on 200mg wk of cyp. Everyone is different.

[MR10X]

plenty of people grow on 300. 100mg a week is normal trt so you are saying 3x the normal level wont be enough?
mast will only make you look harder if your 5%. 5%? seriously. Who is 5% except when they step on stage.
I've seen you give see real off the wall advice.

My advice comes from 30 years of use,i only post my personal experiences. I used masteron in my last cycle and while i was not quite 5% BF i could see a difference when i added it. While 300mg a week of test only is better than natural if your going to shut your your system down and use test only you might as well make it worthwhile,400 or 500mg of test only is not too much to use since we are talking about a test only cycle.. Im sure you mean people make gains on 300mg test a week stacked with something else. You can make gains natural,My first cycle 30 years ago was HCG and anavar and i make gains with that.

[gixxerboy1]

My advice comes from 30 years of use,i only post my personal experiences. I used masteron in my last cycle and while i was not quite 5% BF i could see a difference when i added it. While 300mg a week of test only is better than natural if your going to shut your your system down and use test only you might as well make it worthwhile,400 or 500mg of test only is not too much to use since we are talking about a test only cycle.. Im sure you mean people make gains on 300mg test a week stacked with something else. You can make gains natural,My first cycle 30 years ago was HCG and anavar and i make gains with that.

my first cycle was test only and i was doing 250mg every 5 days and i got good results. i'm sure you could see improvements when you added the mast. But the way your first posted sounded atleast to me was that you would have to be 5% to notice. So if someone took it at 10% they wouldnt tell

[MR10X]

I was less than 10% i would say 10 to 15 pounds from contest condition,I have been in a few contest so i know how i should look.Back when we were doing steroids they were legal,and the ones we used were pharmacituical. Nobody did a test only cycle,even on their first cycle,usually 200 to300mg test and some decca or orals like dianabol and winstrol or anavar.A test only cycle is not optimal,you really need some anabolic like EQ,decca,tren to get the best results,it may be good for a first cycle to see how you react to test but i feel you need at least 400 to 500mg a week.I like masteron but i dont think you need to use it at the begining of the cycle,i like to add it after 4 weeks into the cycle,the side effects are too much for me to run it for a long time (hair loss).

[warren32]

I've decided too trade my mast to a. Friend im actually at 14.5% bf and 13% of it is in my gut lol.. im going to stick with my sust would anyone rrecomenddeca in my second cycle as aa starter?

[hankdiesel]

Stats would be good to know...

he gave them

[hankdiesel]

my first cycle was test only and i was doing 250mg every 5 days and i got good results. i'm sure you could see improvements when you added the mast. But the way your first posted sounded atleast to me was that you would have to be 5% to notice. So if someone took it at 10% they wouldnt tell

This was very close to my first cycle only mine was 250mg every 6 days. I made great gains. I don't know where people came up with this "you need at least 500mg a week to grow."

[Devils Advocate]

This was very close to my first cycle only mine was 250mg every 6 days. I made great gains. I don't know where people came up with this "you need at least 500mg a week to grow."

More than likely the fact that not everyone responds to drugs in the exact same way.

[MR10X]

This was very close to my first cycle only mine was 250mg every 6 days. I made great gains. I don't know where people came up with this "you need at least 500mg a week to grow."

My thinking is if your going to shut your system down you might as well use a dose that will give some worthwhile gains.While you can gain on 250 a week 400 or 500 would be more effective so why not use it.Over that amount you have to use a lot more to see a much bigger improvment over 500mg.You could also start with 250 a week then raise the dose after about 4 weeks and see if is a better dose. you are unique just like everyone else,everybody doesnt respond the same to the same doses you have to see whats works best for you in the end...