tren cough

[anadroljack]

i exp. tren cough man is that scary,anyway to avoid it?

[baseline_9]

Avoid nicking a vein when you pin = impossible

No way to avoid it, simply luck....


Had It once with Test P....

[Ashop]

i exp. tren cough man is that scary,anyway to avoid it?

Try to slow down the injection. Dont do it fast.

[anadroljack]

Try to slow down the injection. Dont do it fast.

that is good advice,thank you both.

[redz]

It can be brutal but it seems less common with Tren E.

[gixxerboy1]

Your now officially a man

[warren32]

Sorry for high jacking but I fought a fed up cough for one day after pinning test/deca... in my butt.? Would this mean I nicked a vain?

[gixxerboy1]

no.

The cough happens right after injection. Sometimes the needle is still in you. And last for a minute or 2

[BBall6]

Yeah, I can taste when I'm just breathing normally for a few seconds before the cough kicks in at the end of an injection. Cough is usually abt a minute but seems like an eternity...

[anadroljack]

about a minute of hell.

[bodybuilder]

Yup it only last for about a minute but dang it sucks so bad feels like 15min.

[big_ron]

I think i get it a good 50% of the time... my face tingles aswell as a cough

[TheClinch]

Gotta love tren haha

[baseline_9]

I think it happens with anything....

I've had it with prop... When I pulled the pin out a load of blood came out aswell...


I think the reason it happens more with short esters is simply because your pinning them more often so it happens more often....

If u pin tren a ED and tren E3.5 days the chances are almost twice as much that you will get a cough from tren a.... Simply because your pinning more often

[marcus300]

Many years ago me and a friend discussed and researched why tren A seems to produce the cough far more than tren E, we came up with few reasons why but there was one what we debated alot over. There are two systems the body use's for circulation, systematic and pulmonary. The pulmonary takes the deoxygenated blood back to the lungs for oxgenation, when we inject part of the injection will be taken up into the capillarys where it heads back to the heart out of the left atrium to the lungs and are expelled co2 and waste products in this case BA. Tren A dissassociates with BA far more easily than other hormones or ester's ie enan,hex. Inject slowly this will slow down the solution hitting the lungs instead of hitting it all in one lump, Always aspirate you could hit a vein and then the hormone and solvents (BA) will hit pulmonary circulation far faster and you are likely to cough your head

[D7M]

Many years ago me and a friend discussed and researched why tren A seems to produce the cough far more than tren E, we came up with few reasons why but there was one what we debated alot over. There are two systems the body use's for circulation, systematic and pulmonary. The pulmonary takes the deoxygenated blood back to the lungs for oxgenation, when we inject part of the injection will be taken up into the capillarys where it heads back to the heart out of the left atrium to the lungs and are expelled co2 and waste products in this case BA. Tren A dissassociates with BA far more easily than other hormones or ester's ie enan,hex. Inject slowly this will slow down the solution hitting the lungs instead of hitting it all in one lump, Always aspirate you could hit a vein and then the hormone and solvents (BA) will hit pulmonary circulation far faster and you are likely to cough your head

Indeed.

Tren cough is also thought to be related to prostaglandin metabolization.

Prostaglandins are made by two different pathways(Cyclooxygenase and Lipoxygenase), and considering prostaglandins are a group of about 20 lipid cells, they have contrary function; responsible for stimulating as well as alleviating inflammation(Inflammation stimulation is the rapid metabolism of them expelled through the bronchials), regulate blood flow to particular organs, control ion transport across membranes, modulate synaptic transmission, induce sleep, mediate lipid release, and regulate metabolism is various tissue.

Prostaglandins are synthesized from arachidonate(Lipoxygenase which catalyze the dioxygenation of polyunsaturated fatty acids) in the cell membrane by the action of phospholipase A2. Cyclooxygenase and lipoxygenase pathways, compete with one another to form prostaglandins(as well as thromboxane or leukotriene-leukotriene being a bronchial stimulator),
In the cyclooxygenase pathway, the prostaglandins D, E and F plus thromboxane and prostacyclin are made. Thromboxanes are made in platelets and cause constriction of vascular smooth muscle and platelet aggregation
Leukotrienes are made in leukocytes and macrophages via the lipoxygenase pathway. They are potent constrictors of the bronchial airways. They are also important in inflammation and hypersensitivity reactions as they increase vascular permeability.

Being that prostaglandins from either pathway, are still fatty acids of a group, they mediate lipid release and controll tissue metabolization, so fat burning is a luxerry of either pathway of formation. It's the pathway from which they are constructed that dictates tren cough. As prostaglandins made from the Cyclooxygenase pathway dictate muscle constriction and platlet aggregation, and the Lipoxygenase pathway dictates bronchial constriction (the main form of expulsion)

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n#.TkvDOoIlqSo

[baseline_9]

Marcus can you explain this in more detail.... Interested

I get what your saying.... But why?

"Tren A dissassociates with BA far more easily than other hormones or ester's ie enan,hex"

[gixxerboy1]

Marcus can you explain this in more detail.... Interested

I get what your saying.... But why?

"Tren A dissassociates with BA far more easily than other hormones or ester's ie enan,hex"

So its more the acetate ester or does it have to be the combo of tren and acetate?

[baseline_9]

I don't see how a hormone in solution can disassociate it's self from the BA...

The soloution of hormone + solvents (BA/BB) is like a glass of orange juce made from cordial...

Are you suggesting that Tren or the fact that it's acetate disassociates it's self and splits some what like a glass of milk when you throw acid in there....


Bonaparte will know the science if there is any

[marcus300]

I don't see how a hormone in solution can disassociate it's self from the BA...

The soloution of hormone + solvents (BA/BB) is like a glass of orange juce made from cordial...

Are you suggesting that Tren or the fact that it's acetate disassociates it's self and splits some what like a glass of milk when you throw acid in there....


Bonaparte will know the science if there is any

Maybe Bonaparte can give his experience here,

I was told by a very good lab guy who stated tren disassociates with BA far more easily than other hormones, he also found that his buddy experienced this cough with other products and when he carried out a test on the ugl they were using far too much BA and this was causing the BA to separate from the hormone to. Like I said there are various theories this is something what we came up. I never questioned WHY tren disassociates far more easily than other hormones because he was at the top of his game seeing he was making many products for one of the biggest UGL's at the time and he seemed to know what he was taking about. Tren seems to do many amazing things we dont fully understand though

[hwy1378]

Great advice , good luck! Ill be doing my first Tren A cycle this year......

[baseline_9]

Maybe Bonaparte can give his experience here,

I was told by a very good lab guy who stated tren disassociates with BA far more easily than other hormones, he also found that his buddy experienced this cough with other products and when he carried out a test on the ugl they were using far too much BA and this was causing the BA to separate from the hormone to. Like I said there are various theories this is something what we came up. I never questioned WHY tren disassociates far more easily than other hormones because he was at the top of his game seeing he was making many products for one of the biggest UGL's at the time and he seemed to know what he was taking about. Tren seems to do many amazing things we dont fully understand though

HAHA

Not trying to catch u out m8

U know me, just interested in everything

[marcus300]

HAHA

Not trying to catch u out m8

U know me, just interested in everything

[anadroljack]

wow marcus is a genius,he has a good answer for anything,but anyway ive pinned slowly the past two times and nothing has happened,i remember when it happened really bad i was pushing pretty fast,that explains that.thank you all for your advice,its always appreciated.