Test suspension

[Damo1986]

Hello people. Need a bit of advice. I want something that is in and out the system within 24 hours that I can use every 2-3 days that won't bloat me?

You may wonder why but I dont want to look in the mirror at a bowling ball every morning and the reason for injecting every few days is in the hope that my balls stay intact.

I know I can go through the process of taking a course, throwing in the armidex, nolvadex, pct, hcg and all the other stuff but am just interested to know if there is anything out there.

I want to bulk but im not concerned about doing it quickly. Ive been recommended test suspension but know there is a lot of water retention associated with this. Could I mix this with winnie to stop the water retention and could I use this every 3-4 days, the idea being my natural levels of testosterone dont drop right off, not hold water and make slow gains?? Any ideas would be great...

[Dragon666]

Suspension is for powerlifters before a competition meet, not for cosmetic purposes. If you want to bulk, and do it slowly, do it like the rest of us and go with at least 12 weeks of test base and deca. If you don't want to do PCT then don't do steroids.

[Ashop]

What type of goals are you trying to acheive?

[ScotchGuard02]

If you're going to run steroids, PCT is a must. If you want to bulk slowly diet and training's probably the best. I'm not trying to be a smart a_ _. Testosterone will put meat on your bones. It'll put on 10 to 20 lbs of muscles in 8 to 12 weeks. To me, that's really fast. If you diet and train hard you'll gain bulk but more slowly.

[Damo1986]

Sorry guys I didnt make it clear what I want and what I've done in the past. Ive done the 12 week courses with all the other stuff included. Im still a beginner in the big scale of things (5yrs) but have tried out plenty of different stuff. I made good gains considering I was the worlds biggest hardgainer and am now in good shape. I just want to put on that little bit more without going on a full blown course and losing my shape. Again time is not an issue
The reason for the test suspension is for the aggression and strength to improve workouts. I dont see why it has to be limited to powerlifters...
I know im looking for an easy fix here but you never no...

[Far from massive]

Test Suspension is not limited to power lifters at all, however it is the last thing you would want to use every 3-4 days. This would only cause your test levels to yo yo up and down as it would still supress your natural production and the short life of the suspension would mean that you would be short of testosterone 75% of the time while you used this approach.

Don't try to reinvent the wheel, believe me any simple idea like this has been tried and if it worked you would have heard about it by now.

If you want to try this kind of approach forget about not shutting yourself down do a low dose of test only and eat clean and moderate calories and use HCG at 250 IUs twice per week this will keep the boys in play and the clean/moderate diet will ensure muscle gains with a loss of fat. While a recomp is a very difficult thing for an advanced user who is strapped with muscle and already low on fat, for this sort of person to gain more muscle while burning fat is very very hard indeed. On the other hand one who is a hard gainer with a moderate physique has plenty of room on his frame for muscle gains and plenty of fat for easy assimalation. Hard gainers usually have moderate anabolic/androgenic body chemistry and a mild test only cycle with a good diet will turn him into the mesomorphic guy he always wished he was.

PS I speak from experience.

[Dragon666]

You can gain muscle without gear dude. Suspension isn't limited to power lifters, of course, generally speaking though I wouldn't recommend it to someone looking to bulk. Try some JACK3D for preworkout. Clean diet, good rest, lift hard, low stress, eat more calories than you consume and you'll gain weight... albeit slowly.

[Dragon666]

Test Suspension is not limited to power lifters at all, however it is the last thing you would want to use every 3-4 days. This would only cause your test levels to yo yo up and down as it would still supress your natural production and the short life of the suspension would mean that you would be short of testosterone 75% of the time while you used this approach.

Don't try to reinvent the wheel, believe me any simple idea like this has been tried and if it worked you would have heard about it by now.

If you want to try this kind of approach forget about not shutting yourself down do a low dose of test only and eat clean and moderate calories and use HCG at 250 IUs twice per week this will keep the boys in play and the clean/moderate diet will ensure muscle gains with a loss of fat. While a recomp is a very difficult thing for an advanced user one who is a hard gainer with a moderate physique usually has moderate anabolic/androgenic body chemistry and a mild test only cycle with a good diet will turn him into the mesomorphic guy he always wished he was.

PS I speak from experience.

Good recommendation right here. Didn't even think of HCG.

[Damo1986]

Thanks guys. Will give it some thought. One other thing. Can you put on any size with winnie. A lot of people say you cant but others say you definatly can to a degree. Its not something ive used before. Any insights?

[MR10X]

If you're going to run steroids, PCT is a must. If you want to bulk slowly diet and training's probably the best. I'm not trying to be a smart a_ _. Testosterone will put meat on your bones. It'll put on 10 to 20 lbs of muscles in 8 to 12 weeks. To me, that's really fast. If you diet and train hard you'll gain bulk but more slowly.

So if i do 10 cycles and put on 20 pounds of muscle each cycle i will have gained 200 pounds of muscle..so if i do 3 8 week cycles a year in 3 years i will gain 180 to 200 pounds of muscle.