Letro + Formastanzol for gyno

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Hello,

I'm new to this site, but not to forums. Basically I signed up here because I found several threads with discussion of what I'm interested in..


Background:

A few years ago in college I used the pro hormone M-Drol. Unfortunately, this was before I fully understood the effects of such a drug, and counted on an over the counter estrogen blocker.

In summary the result was nickel sized gyno that is fairly visible, often even through t shirts.

I've tried leaning up to reduce the tit-fat, and even after losing 20+ lbs I've seen no reduction in the visibility of the gyno.

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Advice?

Now.. I've read a lot lately about the fairly new drug formastanzol, offered by mrsupps.com. I've read several great reviews of people reducing gyno with this drug by itself, and have read good reviews of people reducing letro. I have only seen a few threads of where people have stacked letro + formastanzol to reduce gyno and this is where I'm looking for advice..


I currently have on hand 30ml X 2.5mg of letro from extreme peptides.. I had plans of using this alone in attempts to reduce gyno, but would now like trying to stack it with formastanzol.

My idea was to run 2.5mgs of letro ED for 4-5 weeks or until I ran out, or I noticed good results.

At roughly 4-5 weeks I had planned to begin use of Forma-Stanzol at 5 pumps of in the AM and 5 pumps in the PM.

Along with this I would be drinking tons of water, and had planned to take milk thistle as a liver aid (although I'm not sure what effects letro has on your liver)

^^How does this look?^^ Any advice is appreciated!

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On cycle / off cycle ..?

I actually also have on hand test-e that I had considered using throughout this, all though I've read it would reduce the gyno-reduction effects.... It just seems that the test might help reduce loss of sex drive... Plus it seems like a good time to take advantage of being on such high dosages of AI lol.

I would be running Test at a dosage of 250mgs PW

[Lemonada8]

Get some nolva for your Gyno. That's what I would do

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^ this is not a recent development...

I appreciate the input but I'm fairly certain at this point nolva will have no effect on my existing gyno

I'm really hoping someone will help an unexperienced guy out with some advice... I have searched, and read several threads on several forums. I'm just looking for some direct feedback.

[Littlejonny]

I haven't heard of this other compound you speak off but I've ran a straight letro cycle. I was on 500mg of test a week. I'd rather run a letro regime whilst on cycle as like you said ur sex drive will be killed and estrogen will be lowered by 99% + I ran 2.5 Ed of letro with 28g of milk thistle a day. I dropped down to 2.25 and so on 5 days after the lump was going. It's now totally gone. But it came back next cycle on the opposite nipple. I'm not to worried I just control the aromatizing with arimidex now when cycling. Sometimes .5 Ed if need be.
Ps - your right, nolvA is a serm it's not going to help with estro stick with the AI

just my 2c

[Lemonada8]

It doesnt matter if its recent or not... nolva wont lose its effectiveness on gyno. I used it for pubertal gyno i had for 10 years and it got rid of it in 5 weeks.

using a AI now wont do much other than present other problems. You arent on cycle, you developed gyno after a PH cycle and after recovery from that cycle. Nolva will bind to the receptor on the gyno and prevent estrogen from getting to it which will make it shrink.

[quicktime]

It doesnt matter if its recent or not... nolva wont lose its effectiveness on gyno. I used it for pubertal gyno i had for 10 years and it got rid of it in 5 weeks.

using a AI now wont do much other than present other problems. You arent on cycle, you developed gyno after a PH cycle and after recovery from that cycle. Nolva will bind to the receptor on the gyno and prevent estrogen from getting to it which will make it shrink.

Any recommendations on dosages ? 40-80mgs? ED?

Edit .. Link removed

[Lemonada8]

those doses are for on cycle.

start at 40mg ED for a week then drop it to 20mg ED for 4 weeks. You may want to drop it earlier depending on how your body responds to it. I dropped it after 4 days and stayed at 20mg ED. When i went back up to 40mg (like i missed a day or something) it began to come back but uneven. so i stayed at 20mg ED and now its gone.

ps remove that link...

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Thank You so much for the input ...

Is it feasible at all that I can still reduce the size of the gyno after at least over a year since development?

I don't have a severe case, but it is slightly noticeable and I'm very self cautious of it. I really hope I can see some positive results.

Is there any risks with running nolva in my case? Are there any other supporting drugs / vitamins I should take as well?

[billy_bronx]

hi, ive just joined aswel to get some sound advice on other things. However i ran across your post and wanted to tell you that i am currently using letro to get rid of gyno which i got about a year or so ago. Firstly my lumps were pretty big - slightly bigger on the left side then the right and pretty hard by now.
Ive been running Letro for 9 Days now starting at 0.5 mg on day one , 1mg day 2 , 1.5 day 3 --- till i got to 2.5mg and am currently on 2.5mg and so far ive noticed that the smaller lump on the right side has all but gone (just a hint left if i really look for it) and on the other side it has significantly reduced by up to 50% and every day it feels as its getting smaller and squishier. (before it was really hard and the lump felt way bigger)

hopefully after it has gone from both sides i will continue to run letro at 2.5mg every day for another 7 days to make sure all traces are gone and then go on to nolvadex at 20mg ed for ten days then 10mg for ten days then 5mg for ten to stop the estrogen rebound effect.