took long back to back cycles, limited pct. what do. Please help!

[freds84]

I Okay I'm going to be 27 next month and I'm 163 lbs., about 5' 8 1/2".. I started doing test enanthate 250 and deca 250 April 21st when I weighed a meek 148.

I had a 10ml bottle of each and took a shot about every 5 days. After the Deca was done, I continued to do another bottle of test right after.

Without taking a break, since I couldn't find PCTs in time, I switched to sustanon 250. 1 ml amp every 3 days after that was done.

Basically I was on some kind of test non stop from april 21st until a few weeks ago (I think sept. 7th?)

So luckily I found Nolvadex like not even 2 weeks after my last shot. I've been taking 40mg a day for first week, 20mg a day for next like 15 days starting today.

Im getting more Nolvadex, HCG, and aridex, and test enanthate just in case. Not sure what to do.... I'm still getting erections like a champ and feel strong.

[Livinlean]

So you started at 148 and now after 5 months of cycling you are 163? Why would you cycle at 148 :S most people wouldn't even cycle at your current weight. You gained 15lbs off test deca and sust, that is retarded. Get your diet and training in check otherwise I promise you, you will go back to 148 before you know it.

Nolva only for pct after 5 months? C'mon dude did you even research before starting? Get some clomid to run, you dont need adex unless you have estro issues. I also don't think you need hcg because it should be run on cycle but I could be wrong on that one. You champ like erections should only last another 2 weeks, if they last longer than props cause you lucked out.

To conclude: Get clomid and more nolva dont even touch the Test E. Get your diet and training in check or you WILL lose your gains. I know I probably came off like a dick but dude you did a lot of stuff wrong here.

[Lemonada8]

well... you are gonna want to take a break after you are done with this pct to let your body fully recover and re-balance itself.

so your pct as of now is just nolva for 40/20/20? you will want to add more on to that.

Do nolva at least 4 weeks (so add a minimum of a week at 20mg ed on to that, wouldnt hurt to do a total of 5 week pct of nolva)
You wont want to use armidex or hcg now since ur in pct. those are for on cycle more than pct so save them for the next time u do test e.
also you will want to get some blood work done a few weeks out of pct to see where the values are. and monitor how you are feeling and when you are feeling.
for your next pct, i would get some clomid also and use that in your pct next time for the first 2 weeks.

as for what to do, i would just keep doing what you are doing then take a long break before your next cycle (like 3 months at least)

[freds84]

well I was up to almost 170 but have dropped a little since I stopped. Why wouldn't people cycle at that weight? I've been steadily lifting since a young age and have always stayed at least toned and low body fat.

People say that Nolvadex works better than Clomid, and is cheaper, that's why I used that.

What kind of estro issues are you talking about? I don't think I have any sypmtoms other than somewhat diminished sex drive. And yea I can't call it whiskey dick everytime.

What about taking another test booster like T-bomb from GNC? or something different

[The Bear 79]

well I was up to almost 170 but have dropped a little since I stopped. Why wouldn't people cycle at that weight? I've been steadily lifting since a young age and have always stayed at least toned and low body fat.

People say that Nolvadex works better than Clomid, and is cheaper, that's why I used that.

What kind of estro issues are you talking about? I don't think I have any sypmtoms other than somewhat diminished sex drive. And yea I can't call it whiskey dick everytime.

What about taking another test booster like T-bomb from GNC? or something different

Ur askin the questions u should hav asked B4 ur cycle. "Test boosters" will only hav an affect on ur wallet, but it wont b a boost, I can tell u that.

[raptorws6]

What kind of estro issues are you talking about? I don't think I have any sypmtoms other than somewhat diminished sex drive. And yea I can't call it whiskey dick everytime.

Dude are you referring to the fact that you've been drinking also here and there? Maybe i'm misinterpreting it but if thats the case you really gotta stop that also especially on cycle/PCT! It'll kill gains and reduce the likelyhood for test to return to normal levels anytime soon!

[Bio-Active]

I Okay I'm going to be 27 next month and I'm 163 lbs., about 5' 8 1/2".. I started doing test enanthate 250 and deca 250 April 21st when I weighed a meek 148.

I had a 10ml bottle of each and took a shot about every 5 days. After the Deca was done, I continued to do another bottle of test right after.

Without taking a break, since I couldn't find PCTs in time, I switched to sustanon 250. 1 ml amp every 3 days after that was done.

Basically I was on some kind of test non stop from april 21st until a few weeks ago (I think sept. 7th?)

So luckily I found Nolvadex like not even 2 weeks after my last shot. I've been taking 40mg a day for first week, 20mg a day for next like 15 days starting today.

Im getting more Nolvadex, HCG, and aridex, and test enanthate just in case. Not sure what to do.... I'm still getting erections like a champ and f eel strong.

In the pct forum swifto has a great protocol.

[cantbetouched]

This is a horrible thread!!! You should have educated yourself before!!! as for now you will need hcg i would do 500iu ed for 14 days until pct then run nolva 40/40/20/20/20 clomid 300 day1 150/150/100/100/75/50 you have been on a long time you need a heavy pct to get yourself as close to normal as possible!!! if possible!

[Lemonada8]

Doing that much HCG will lead to LH insensitivity which will hamper recovery. 500iu E2D would be sufficient.
also day 1 of clomid at 300 is way to much. And only need 2-3 weeks of it at most, it also leads to LH insensitivity. and 100mg would be the 1st week then 50mg the next 2 weeks.
the nolva is fine that u suggested.

[Dorian22]

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