Erection Problems...

[Tres']

30 yrs old
180lb 8% body fat
2 years of training
HRT Cyp 100 per week
Ran my first cycle of E 250 twice a week for 12 weeks 6 months ago
PCT Tamox 40/2 20/4
Went back on HRT 4 weeks after my last shot of E

My test started at 12 and 450 before I ran
4 months after my run my test is 29 and 1250 only on 100 of Cyp a week

I have little sex drive and minimal erections...
I have stopped taking my HRT in hopes of lowering my test to get my
erections back..it has been 3 weeks and no change so far..

Any thoughts, hopefully I gave enough info.

[gixxerboy1]

why did you run a pct. you should have went straight back to your hrt after the cycle

[big_ron]

X 2....!

[Tres']

Went on a PCT cause I wanted to do it right...or I thought I was.

[songdog]

now you know bro.

[Tres']

So, going from here..any help?

[aussie fireman]

Cialis

[lovbyts]

Get back on TRT and stay on it. Your estrogen levels probably went out of whack, went to high at the end. Getting off TRT is the worse thing you could do at this point. No need for PCT when you are taking TRT.

[Tres']

Thanks lovbyts....

[DaNKahoLIc]

agree

[Gi812Many]

I just got the liquid Cia from AR-R and love it...wow, didn't know what I was missing

[gixxerboy1]

I just got the liquid Cia from AR-R and love it...wow, didn't know what I was missing

lol. yea it works well

[Ashop]

30 yrs old
180lb 8% body fat
2 years of training
HRT Cyp 100 per week
Ran my first cycle of E 250 twice a week for 12 weeks 6 months ago
PCT Tamox 40/2 20/4
Went back on HRT 4 weeks after my last shot of E

My test started at 12 and 450 before I ran
4 months after my run my test is 29 and 1250 only on 100 of Cyp a week

I have little sex drive and minimal erections...
I have stopped taking my HRT in hopes of lowering my test to get my
erections back..it has been 3 weeks and no change so far..

Any thoughts, hopefully I gave enough info.

So many changes have your hormones way out of balance. I would have at least stayed on 100mg every 5-7 days. That
would take you around high normal range. Since your off now it would be a good idea to have some blood test work done
to see where you stand with everything.

[Tres']

Update, got Cialis from my doc..my junk is working again. Question: Am I going to have to stay on it to keep my junk working? Also when I go
on next time what should I do or take to keep my estrogen at bay?

[gixxerboy1]

you shouldnt have to stay on it. It jsut will take some time for your hormones to balance out again.
Did you have estro problems where you need to take something? Estrogen is good too. I wouldnt take anything unless its needed. If so try aromasin.

[Lemonada8]

just stay on TRT, whatever 'blast' you do just add it to the TRT you are already taking.

[devildog1967]

Did you have sex drive and erections while on TRT before you blasted AAS?
If you answer yes then you know the problem . ( IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT )

In my opinion TRT is about getting your levels about right so you have a normal life.

If your going to blast while on TRT then you may as well just cycle AAS and PCT after and dont bother with doing TRT.

[Dorian22]

TRT is good i do have experienc it really solved the erection problem but it will take time to solve it one of friend had the same problem i suggest him and he is fine now.............

[auslifta]

Did you have sex drive and erections while on TRT before you blasted AAS?
If you answer yes then you know the problem . ( IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT )

In my opinion TRT is about getting your levels about right so you have a normal life.

If your going to blast while on TRT then you may as well just cycle AAS and PCT after and dont bother with doing TRT.

I dont agree with this. If you're on TRT, then you obviously are having trouble producing your natural Test. If you cycle and PCT like a normal person, the PCT will do nothing after a cycle, so don't stop TRT dosage./ The ED issue was because your estrogen was out of whack. Just keep your TRT dose going. If you blast again in the future, maybe you'd like to include aromasin during the blast. Now you know there is no need to PCT after a blast when you're already on TRT.

[devildog1967]

I dont agree with this. If you're on TRT, then you obviously are having trouble producing your natural Test. If you cycle and PCT like a normal person, the PCT will do nothing after a cycle, so don't stop TRT dosage./ The ED issue was because your estrogen was out of whack. Just keep your TRT dose going. If you blast again in the future, maybe you'd like to include aromasin during the blast. Now you know there is no need to PCT after a blast when you're already on TRT.

What im saying is ! why blast when your on TRT . Thats when you run into trouble , If your hormones were messed up before TRT and the TRT cured it then why would you want to mess it up with adding more too the mix. People take TRT because the have health issues . Im saying if you are going to mess around with your treatment and cycle extra then what is the point in going for TRT ? I do TRT at only 100mg from 200mg and would not dream of messing my excellent results . Also keeping it low will help estrogen that means no AI. I do TRT for heath reasons NOT vanity .

Plus cycling while on TRT is more dangerous ..

[The Titan99]

I suppose I do it the same reason anyone would cycle AAS. You never cycle AAS except for your TRT dose? Is that you in your Avatar? If it is, I don't know what to say...

[devildog1967]

Iv done 3 cycles of sus 250 1 mil a week for 8 weeks about 9y ago. I have trained natural a part from that( been training for over 20y). only been doing TRT for 10 weeks to treat low sex drive and depression . And yes that me in the pic .

[The Titan99]

Well you look real big, that's for sure. I'm 47, 6'2" 245 and a bit lower body fat than my avatar and am on self-imposed TRT and I cruise and blast at what a lot of people would consider some fairly high doses. I stay away from orals and keep a close eye on my BP, cholesterol and liver enzymes and have never had any erectile or depression issues aside some higher doses of Deca which was easily handled with 50 mg of Proviron and a little caber. Never anything as bad as before I did anything. I guess I should consider myself lucky.

[devildog1967]

I just dont see the point in overloading the system with one thing then the next. You look good on it tho bro

[The Titan99]

Yea, your probably right. Everything in moderation. I've been hitting it pretty hard the last 12-14 months. I'm going to take a bit of a TRT break here starting in November. Thanks for the comp man.

[auslifta]

What im saying is ! why blast when your on TRT . Thats when you run into trouble , If your hormones were messed up before TRT and the TRT cured it then why would you want to mess it up with adding more too the mix. People take TRT because the have health issues . Im saying if you are going to mess around with your treatment and cycle extra then what is the point in going for TRT ? I do TRT at only 100mg from 200mg and would not dream of messing my excellent results . Also keeping it low will help estrogen that means no AI. I do TRT for heath reasons NOT vanity .

Plus cycling while on TRT is more dangerous ..

TRT does not cure low testosterone problems, it replaces it. Thats like saying "pain killers cured my bad back". Saying there is no point to cruising and blasting is like saying there is no point to cycle at all. If I was on TRT, I'd blast 4 times a year, prob include other compounds during the blast.

I don't see how cycling on TRT is any more dangerous than cycling without. To the contrary, at least you don't have to worry about PCT and taking clomid and nolva, which IMO are powerful compounds not to be taken lightly. And you also don't have to worry about having to go on TRT when you're already on it. Call me shallow, but 70% of the reason I workout is vanity. I mean it's not healthy to be walking around with 25kgs of extra muscle on your frame.

[devildog1967]

I only say it as i see it bro.

[devildog1967]

TRT does not cure low testosterone problems, it replaces it. Thats like saying "pain killers cured my bad back". Saying there is no point to cruising and blasting is like saying there is no point to cycle at all. If I was on TRT, I'd blast 4 times a year, prob include other compounds during the blast.

I don't see how cycling on TRT is any more dangerous than cycling without. To the contrary, at least you don't have to worry about PCT and taking clomid and nolva, which IMO are powerful compounds not to be taken lightly. And you also don't have to worry about having to go on TRT when you're already on it. Call me shallow, but 70% of the reason I workout is vanity. I mean it's not healthy to be walking around with 25kgs of extra muscle on your frame.

Cycling while on TRT is a bad as increasing the dose to big cycle levels means the body is not stable as its hard enough to keep levels stable while on TRT. TRT is ment to replace low hormones and help health . Its like having a car and trying to run it at full speed with higher than normal test levels with blasting all the time. Sooner or later that engine will blow .
TRT is ment to help you keep good stable levels .. Not to be used in conjuntion with high cycles.. It flys in the face of people that honestly need TRT .. Thats why its hard in the uk to get TRT as some people give it a bad name by abusing it.

WOULD YOU RUN 1000mg of test a week ? If not why not ? Simple answer is NO as you know running High dosage of AAS is dangerous. So what would be the difference of doing TRT then blasting 4 times a year with high dose of AAS and all the AIs you need (opposed to keeping stable levels all year long ) . I need no AI as im running near to normal levels test. Not flaming im just saying

[gixxerboy1]

devildog. I see what your saying and have to dissagree with you also.
But i look at is a blaasting in no difference then anyone else cycling or the reasons behind it.

[devildog1967]

devildog. I see what your saying and have to dissagree with you also.
But i look at is a blaasting in no difference then anyone else cycling or the reasons behind it.

Im not disagreeing with what people do I.E. cycling and TRT thats up to the each and everyone . I just say it from my point that if your on TRT for health reasons I.E sex drive and ED e.c.t and the TRT works and every thing is working again . Why would that said person gamble on losing the lot again for vanity . So really im answering TRESs post and looks like iv hijacked the thread .. Sorry gang

[auslifta]

Cycling while on TRT is a bad as increasing the dose to big cycle levels means the body is not stable as its hard enough to keep levels stable while on TRT. TRT is ment to replace low hormones and help health . Its like having a car and trying to run it at full speed with higher than normal test levels with blasting all the time. Sooner or later that engine will blow .
TRT is ment to help you keep good stable levels .. Not to be used in conjuntion with high cycles.. It flys in the face of people that honestly need TRT .. Thats why its hard in the uk to get TRT as some people give it a bad name by abusing it.

WOULD YOU RUN 1000mg of test a week ? If not why not ? Simple answer is NO as you know running High dosage of AAS is dangerous. So what would be the difference of doing TRT then blasting 4 times a year with high dose of AAS and all the AIs you need (opposed to keeping stable levels all year long ) . I need no AI as im running near to normal levels test. Not flaming im just saying

I'm not flamming either. Just a difference of opinion. I personally would never run more than 500mgs test. You could blast on 300mgs. Blasting could mean you go on 600mgs of deca along with your TRT dose of 100mgs/week. Or tren at 350mgs along with TRT. Again, if all your interested in is health, good for you, stay on TRT. But if your in this for bodybuilding or vanity, I see no problem with blasting on TRT. If you research, and know to get bloodwork to check things like lipid values, cholesterol levels, blood pressure etc. then no problem. Everyone should know the risk/reward.

[gixxerboy1]

Im not disagreeing with what people do I.E. cycling and TRT thats up to the each and everyone . I just say it from my point that if your on TRT for health reasons I.E sex drive and ED e.c.t and the TRT works and every thing is working again . Why would that said person gamble on losing the lot again for vanity . So really im answering TRESs post and looks like iv hijacked the thread .. Sorry gang

i just dont understand why you think you loose all that if u blast a couple times a year

[devildog1967]

i just dont understand why you think you loose all that if u blast a couple times a year

losing the health benefits that TRT give you. You get TRT to get your levels to a healthy level then you bang cycles and knock seven bells out of hormone system . Surly you would be happy knowing that you have health benefits by keeping on a straight TRT therapy. I would worry like hell if i messed around with taking stacks and then adding a AI to control other things. If someone is just doing cycles then PCT is better as there getting there hormones back in line then giving there body's a good long rest(AGAIN YOU WOULD NOT RUN A HIGH DOSE OF AAS FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME ). TRT they have is to correct a imbalance which really needs to be monitored and there really would no be any point in doing that if your cycling as your only cheating the results . So there would not be any health benefits taking cycles when on TRT.. Its just how i see it buddy and no offence at all.

[gixxerboy1]

def no offence. But maybe since you havent really cycled you dont have the experience to know what it is like.
Your body gets back to "feeling normal" if you do a cycle then go on trt then a cycle to pct. It takes a long time to adjust back with a pct.
im not trt also. FYI

[devildog1967]

So your now saying you would do a PCT when your on TRT.. Medical TRT is for life because of health reasons so why would you PCT it ? And if your saying iv not cycled so im not experienced , well i have cycled and done PCT not to great amounts agreed but iv read alot and learnt alot over my 20 plus years of training and knowing people that have done the large cycles. I chose not to hit the large cycles as number one i dont feel the need to as i dont compete at any sport or bb competitions. And number 2 i value my health over vanity . TRT was a big step for me and one i dont take lightly , but needs must as its helped me 100% in my general life. So i dont intend to screw it up and would advice others not to. Plus if you were prescribed TRT then cycled would the doctors still prescribe it ? Or would you have to mess yourself up to get your levels down so you can cheat the blood tests ?

[gixxerboy1]

So your now saying you would do a PCT when your on TRT.. Medical TRT is for life because of health reasons so why would you PCT it ?no im not saying that at all. And if your saying iv not cycled so im not experienced , well i have cycled and done PCT not to great amounts agreed but iv read alot and learnt alot over my 20 plus years of training and knowing people that have done the large cycles.I'm not saying you arent knowledgeable. But book smart is different then experience. I was talking about how you "feel" coming off and going on pct. So a few cycles 9 years ago. Doesnt give you alot to go on how someone or yourself "feels" I chose not to hit the large cycles as number one i dont feel the need to as i dont compete at any sport or bb competitions. And number 2 i value my health over vanity . TRT was a big step for me and one i dont take lightly , but needs must as its helped me 100% in my general life. So i dont intend to screw it up and would advice others not to. I dont get why you think you can screw up trt buy cyclingPlus if you were prescribed TRT then cycled would the doctors still prescribe it ? Or would you have to mess yourself up to get your levels down so you can cheat the blood tests ?I dont have to go for bloodwork that often. TRT isnt as sensitive as you are making it out. Well for me at least. I know what dose of test i need to run to be in the normal range. I just return to that. Its not rocket science

Answers in bold.

I still dont understand your comment how blasting on trt is more dangerous then cycling and doing pct. If you are already on trt the damages to your natural production is already done. THere is really nothing to risk

[devildog1967]

Answers in bold.

I still dont understand your comment how blasting on trt is more dangerous then cycling and doing pct. If you are already on trt the damages to your natural production is already done. THere is really nothing to risk

So if i dont know a great deal ! Are cycling steroids safe or not ? If the answer is yes to that question then why dont people take large cycles all year long ? If the answer is no there not safe then you have your answer why cycling while on TRT is dangerous. As i said TRT is about keeping all levels stable to a near natural level , If the oestrogen rises then the doc would lower the level of the test . Now if your cycling while on TRT the chances are that you would have to get a AI . So again you would be messing with the levels the doc put you on. Now here is the fun part! having larger than normal test levels gives you MORE chance of having a high RBC . where on medicated TRT at a low dose does not always run your RBC so high if at all . Yes people get away with it with donating . But thats not the point . You say you know your levels to return them back to normal ? You dont go for blood test that often? So you are saying your not getting older so your levels will never drop E.C.T thats how you know your levels(ITS NOT JUST THE TEST LEVELS THINK OF THE FULL BLOOD PANEL ) . If you had a headache would you take 2 pain killers ? Or maybe directions on a pack dont count and there is no more risk in taking 100 to kill the pain (INSTRUCTIONS AND DIRECTIONS ARE THERE FOR A REASON). Thats what medicated TRT is all about keeping at a stated level and not risking health . after all why do people go to the docs for TRT. I cant see the point if you are not going to follow instructions just wasting the docs time .

You say your not on TRT ?

[devildog1967]

I will leave it at that and i will do it the TRT way we all have to agree to differ sometimes

Thanks for the debate

Good luck Bro

[Tres']

damn....well I went on hrt or trt with a family history of lower levels. I never had a problem with my sex drive or erections before I went on. I did have a full blood panel done after my cycle...it was all in the normal range. Did not get the estro checked though, next time I will.

Thanks for the help guys..I am back to working order ^_^

[auslifta]

damn....well I went on hrt or trt with a family history of lower levels. I never had a problem with my sex drive or erections before I went on. I did have a full blood panel done after my cycle...it was all in the normal range. Did not get the estro checked though, next time I will.

Thanks for the help guys..I am back to working order ^_^

Good to hear. Yeah next time, full blood panel means everything.