Getting Cut from a bulk cycle??? why?? ideas???

[denzel]

Well my mate started his 2nd cycle

1st cycle was sustanon 500mg a week which he turned into 750mg a week for 12 weeks

2nd cycle is 750mg of sus and 400mg of deca (classic mass builder)

Now, his 1st cycle he got some good gaines, had water retention, gained some good mass etc etc

2nd cycle totally different

He in his 5th week, and has gained only about 2kg!!!!! but lost a lot of fat, you can tell just in face (he not a fat dude but his body % definitely has decreased alot)

this does not make sense!?! whats going on? and possible reasons?

diet has remained the same, even now he smashing more carbs to try and mass up some more. he is not retaining water, and the mass just isnt there


He is taking liquidex for on cycle, but that wouldnt cuase the results to be that dramatic....

maybe his source gave him different gear??

cheers.

[Times Roman]

it takes more than gear to pack on muscle. You mentioned absolutely nothing about his diet, caloric intake or macros.

Diet + exercise = Highest priority

[ghettoboyd]

^^^agreed...too much focus on the gear when diet is the key to success whatever the goal for the cycle may be...

[BG]

Its the deca. I get lean as hell around week 7.

[Mr_Prop_var_Testen]

He's eating @ maintenance so he's loosing fat gaining mass with no weight increase as u said he has the same diet that got him to this weight so he's gonna stay there. It's happening to me right now I'm on 1st test cycle and whatever I eat I don't weigh more than 185 so tweak the diet it's the most imp thing.

[denzel]

he has been eating as much as he can

the thing is

why would he get bloated/water retention first cycle

and be burning fat second cycle?? he is getting more and more ripped, i thought deca was more of a mass builder...well thats what the forums say..

[gixxerboy1]

he has been eating as much as he can

the thing is

why would he get bloated/water retention first cycle

and be burning fat second cycle?? he is getting more and more ripped, i thought deca was more of a mass builder...well thats what the forums say..

its his diet. Thats the reason. Your diet makes up if its more of a cut or bulk not the chemicals
The bloating could have been cause of a few different things. Diet, estrogen,