ANAVAR cycle advice***

[..mike..]

Just about to start an 8 week 100mg ed anavar cycle got some PC 50mg orals.
Going to do a 50/50 split ed.
Is there any difference in times taking the var as i know it has a short half life?
Currently am thinking taking one 50mg after breakfast then the other after workout.

Is there any better way of doing this? as it's my first time using var, second cycle.
Also would it be better to do my cardio in the morning with no pump before taking my first var pill?

Thanks, Mike.

[The Bear 79]

Welcome Mike. Wut r ur stats, goals & cycle history?

[..mike..]

Thanks for the welcome!!

Well been lifting on and off for several years now, at my biggest was 5'10 200lbs around 15%bf.
Currently sitting at around 175lbs 13% bf.
First and only cycle was 4 week dbol kicker and test e 500mg/week 12 weeks, standard beginner cycle.

My goals for this cycle are basically to put on some lean mass and drop bf. Was thinking of throwing in some prop but decided against it.
As for diet am aiming for atleast 200g of protein a day (only 100 of those from shakes) and keeping carbs to a minimum mainly oatmeal at breakfast along with my shake. Going to keep cals around 3k.

[The Bear 79]

OK, ur getting 50% of ur protein from shakes.................not good, real food is best, especially when trying 2 build lean mass, & I would kick it up to @ least 250 if not 300+. How many calories r u taking in daily? How old r u?

[..mike..]

Yeah i know kinda ashamed to admit that, i try to get as much protein from food as possible but i would always drink three shakes (100g's).
For this cycle am going to stick to 3k cals, anavars an appetite suppressant also so the shakes are easier to get down.
Am 25.

[The Bear 79]

Get away from the shakes if u can, like I sed, real food is best 4 building muscle / mass. Y does ur profile say ur 22?

[..mike..]

Yeah i totally agree, it's just quick an easy because am always on the go.
Also between jobs at the minute so moneys a bit tight just going to stock up on cheap canned tuna/sardines and the like.

Was not aware your age came up on profile just clicked on random year to make me above 18!

Have you any experience with var and input on the initial op? at a crossroads when to take each dose etc as of the short half life and when to do cardio as i'll be doing alot of cardio during this cycle.

Appreciate your input!

[The Bear 79]

Do u realize / understand, cycling @ 22 significantly increases the risk of doing potentially irreversible damage 2 ur undeveloped Endocrine / HPTA. U could end up on HRT or TRT 4 LIFE!

[Times Roman]

Welcome to the board mate!
Just wanted to point out that although var is probably the mildest oral out there, there is a fairly good chance it will at least partially shut you down at that dose. At 10mg to 20mg per day, var probably will not shut you down. At 60mg/day for 12 weeks, about 2/3 of those taking at this dose will partially to fully shut down testosterone production. So just be aware of this, and plan accordingly.
Standard advice is at high doses, you should probably consider adding at least a low dose test, and plan a proper pct. I've done 100mg/day for 6 weeks, without test, and all the symptoms I had suggested I was shut down.
Good luck!
---Roman

[..mike..]

Yes very aware as my first cycle was at 23, did alot of research but not on anavar.
See above am 25, i didn't realise age showed on profile and clicked a random year which would make me above 18! I'll change it now.

Have you any advice or input on the questions in original op?

Thanks, Mike.

[chuckt12345]

Yes very aware as my first cycle was at 23, did alot of research but not on anavar.
See above am 25, i didn't realise age showed on profile and clicked a random year which would make me above 18! I'll change it now.

Have you any advice or input on the questions in original op?

Thanks, Mike.

just split them twice daily and take them consistant,, wont matter if you cardio before or after taking pill.

[..mike..]

Welcome to the board mate!
Just wanted to point out that although var is probably the mildest oral out there, there is a fairly good chance it will at least partially shut you down at that dose. At 10mg to 20mg per day, var probably will not shut you down. At 60mg/day for 12 weeks, about 2/3 of those taking at this dose will partially to fully shut down testosterone production. So just be aware of this, and plan accordingly.
Standard advice is at high doses, you should probably consider adding at least a low dose test, and plan a proper pct. I've done 100mg/day for 6 weeks, without test, and all the symptoms I had suggested I was shut down.
Good luck!
---Roman

Appreciate the input, yeah am fully expecting to be shut down. Got some adex and PCT on hand nolvadex 20/20/10/10/10, should that suffice for a mild anavar cycle?

[The Bear 79]

Yes very aware as my first cycle was at 23, did alot of research but not on anavar.
See above am 25, i didn't realise age showed on profile and clicked a random year which would make me above 18! I'll change it now.

Have you any advice or input on the questions in original op?

Thanks, Mike.

I don't believe u, I think ur lieing cuz u know we don't like 2 advise steroid use 2 any1 under 25. This happens here VERY often, & the excuses r always the same. On that note, I'm out. Roman can help, he doesn't seem 2 care how old u r.

[..mike..]

just split them twice daily and take them consistant,, wont matter if you cardio before or after taking pill.

Yeah one am then one pm after workout. Heard alot of broscience about the half life being short and about the best times to take it and not to do cardio with a var pump.
Thanks for confirming it's just broscience.

[Times Roman]

Appreciate the input, yeah am fully expecting to be shut down. Got some adex and PCT on hand nolvadex 20/20/10/10/10, should that suffice for a mild anavar cycle?

I don't PCT, since I TRT. Because of this, I won't offer advice on anything I do not have direct experience with.

however, we have a TON of information on this subject.

Try this link....

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...y-Steroid.com-)

[Times Roman]

I don't believe u, I think ur lieing cuz u know we don't like 2 advise steroid use 2 any1 under 25. This happens here VERY often, & the excuses r always the same. On that note, I'm out. Roman can help, he doesn't seem 2 care how old u r.

Member says he's 25, and acting in a mature rational manner. I choose to believe him.

[chuckt12345]

Member says he's 25, and acting in a mature rational manner. I choose to believe him.

Agree

[..mike..]

Thanks TR, made a post on there. Although from reading a few pages that PCT should suffice.

Whats sides did you experience running it at 100mg for 6 weeks?

[chuckt12345]

ive run it twice alone before but never that high,, around 50 to 60 ed fro me, 6 or 7 wks i think,
didnt have any sides really. You may have some libido prbs. I would prb do full pct at 100mg ed add clomid

[..mike..]

ive run it twice alone before but never that high,, around 50 to 60 ed fro me, 6 or 7 wks i think,
didnt have any sides really. You may have some libido prbs. I would prb do full pct at 100mg ed add clomid

Yeah suspected that PCT was a bit weak, although with it being var i thought it might suffice. No harm in adding clomid though.
How were your gains running it at that dose?

EDIT*** Going to gym now, will check back on thread later.

[chuckt12345]

weight gains were not much, maybe 8-10 lbs but strength was good

[Times Roman]

Thanks TR, made a post on there. Although from reading a few pages that PCT should suffice.

Whats sides did you experience running it at 100mg for 6 weeks?

well, the woman started griping cause I wasn't pestering her for sex all the time like I usually do.....

....it's kind of strange, she just mentioned it one day, asked me if "we" are OK? I'm like, huh? why would you ask that? and she said it's cause we haven't had sex in a couple of weeks. Then I started thinking about it, and she was right. And then when we did have sex that night, i had some issues finishing. We had to keep stopping, and she had to oral me until i was ready again. This was the main side I experienced. Pretty good clue I was shut down....

[..mike..]

well, the woman started griping cause I wasn't pestering her for sex all the time like I usually do.....

....it's kind of strange, she just mentioned it one day, asked me if "we" are OK? I'm like, huh? why would you ask that? and she said it's cause we haven't had sex in a couple of weeks. Then I started thinking about it, and she was right. And then when we did have sex that night, i had some issues finishing. We had to keep stopping, and she had to oral me until i was ready again. This was the main side I experienced. Pretty good clue I was shut down....

LOL Typical woman, just like my missus, pester her for sex it's an issue, don't pester her for sex it's an even bigger issue!!
Can't do right for wrong!