Planning Second Cycle

[Coozan]

My first Cycle ran 12 weeks. Ran like this

1-4 50mg Dbol ed
4-8 50mg dbol ed and 500mg Test E weekly
8-12 500mg Test E

PCT was
1-2 Nothing
2-8 Novdex and Clomid

Horrible PCT I know but I've learned better sense

I had good gains and liked the cycle. My question is should I run the same for my next?

[lil_herc81]

I personally think dbol should be limited to 6 weeks at 25-50mg daily.The dosage posted for test E looks fine and I would continue with that. Pick up on the PCT as you mentioned.

[Times Roman]

Disagree mate.
Your first cycle sucked, sorry for the criticism.
It should have been test only. But it wasn't. And you ran an orals only for the first 4 weeks. Should have ran test right off the bat. So you only ran test for 8 weeks, which is too short for E.

Time to do this right.
Only run test e, ship the dbol, for the full 12 weeks. this way you get a full understanding of what test does to your body. Then any cycle after that, you can add another compound.

I'll let you figure out your PCT, just go to the PCT forum and look it up.

Cheers!
---Roman

and don't forget the liver protection!

[Coozan]

Thanks guys.

Roman. Are you saying next cycle do 12 weeks Test E 500mg Weekly and that's it?

I thought I made good gains off that cycle. Your saying I could have made more :O

[Times Roman]

yes, next cycle = 12 weeks test e only 500mg/week.

I'm not saying you should have made more gains. I'm saying take a scientific approach, and only introduce 1 unknown variable into the equation at a time.

but you need to truly understand what a test only cycle is like. so skip the orals next time. and you ran orals without test for a month, and then you ran orals for 2 months which is too long. and anytime you run orals, you need liver protection.

make sense?

[lil_herc81]

OMG! I didnt even realize there was no test until week 4.

Times- you dont think it will matter that he used his first cycle and not again on his second? Obviously he wont have the same gains out of the gate from the dbol but 12 weeks may balance out the end result. Just curious. I, like coozan cycled with dbol my first run, plus deca. (Bad advice and no research)

[Coozan]

All great info guys!