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    Test E/Dbol/Deca...a few questions for you anabolic gods out there

    Sup all,
    New the forum and was looking for a home so I figure steroid.com would be the best place to hang out. I am by no means an expert on the matter of anabolics but I do keep well read on the subject...that being said this will be my 8th cycle and wanted to get some feedback as this will be the heaviest cycle I have done. My typical cycles have been test/tren with AI/SERM, but thought I would give deca and dbol a shot, no pun intended , as I am going for some bulk.

    My Stats:
    Age: 35
    Height: 6'0
    Weight: 170
    bf: 8%-9%

    My cycle:
    Week 1-16: Test E 625mg
    Week 1-4: dbol 40mg
    Week 1-14: Deca 535mg (odd number I know...but that is exactly 3 10mls/250mg and I figured that is spot on with the typically range of 400 - 600)
    Week 1-16: HCG 250iu's 2 x a week
    Week 1-16: Adex 1mg (Yes I know letro this and letro that, but Adex works well for me...plus letro has a tendency to kill my libido)
    Week 3-16: Dostinex .5mg Every 4 days (my cap sizes are .5mg and cannot be broken apart booo else I would probably do .25 eod)
    Week 1-16: GHRP-6 & CJC-1295 100mcg/200mcg x 2 a day respectively (Love this stuff...ghrp-6 makes me eat like a horse more than anything else. check out DAT's basic guide)

    PCT None...naaah just kidden

    PCT:
    Nolva 5 weeks prolly 40/40/30/20/20 (yes I have read many articles/studies on nolva and deca)
    Clomid 5 weeks prolly 150/150/100/50/50 (suggestions?)

    So, I really like some feedback on a few things.
    1) Front loading
    a) Your experience...what added benefit did you get or not get?
    2) Test Prop
    a) Your experience...would you add test prop to a cycle like this?
    b) If so how would you dose it?
    c) Would you still front load?
    3) Clomid
    a) Your experience...why do you run Clomid with or without Nolva?
    4) BP
    a) What do you use to control BP?
    b) What are your thoughts on herbal remedies ( I am a skeptic to be honest) like Hawthorn, CoQ10, Grapeseed?

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    cycle looks awsome dude!! have fun wih it

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    ok, just so you dont think Im trying to lean on you for improper cycling, you do have a nice lean physique which is a good thing...

    but...

    what you have there could have been acheived naturally and after 8 cycles and only weighing 170lbs, dont you think something here doesnt add up? Sure, not everyone wants to be huge, but what were the goals of your previous cycles?

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    Well don't read into my post as a chronology of my workouts/life there is more to the story than a thread I post...there has been a lot of stuff gone on in my life that could answer your question of "only 170lbs" namely illness, but that is neither here nor there now that I am 100% healthy. Moreover, everyone is different, every body is different...coming from a frame of 125lbs good sir to 170lbs for me could hardly happen without cycles. So, with that my goals have varied throughout my cycles. Being a goal oriented person myself, I for the most, obtained those goals and I hope to this one.

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    Leto sucks for a cycle unless you're extremely prone to estrogen sides so running adex is smart if it works for you. My question is do you even have to run the adex while on your cycle? Are you prone to gyno or are you trying to minimize bloat? Because if not I would save it for the second half of the cycle and bleed it into your pct or just run it with your pct only. Also, why stop the HCG at week 16? Why not incorporate that into your PCT as well or maybe start your HCG a few weeks after your first anabolic injection and have it for your pct along with the Nolva, clomid and adex? Just some suggestions

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    Typical bulking cycle. Personally, i think the test/tren is "heavier" than this one. Either way, why would you want to add prop? I wouldn't, and no need to front load. Especially if you're going to use d-bol.
    HCG weeks 4 up till PCT. Not included with...You didn't mention when you were going to start PCT...
    Yes, add Clomid to your PCT.
    Never had BP issues so can't help there..Herbal remedies? Don't use them. Never really felt the need to try them.

    Of course, this is all for not if you don't have a proper diet in place.

    Good Luck...

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    Typical bulking cycle. Personally, i think the test/tren is "heavier" than this one. Either way, why would you want to add prop? I wouldn't, and no need to front load. Especially if you're going to use d-bol.
    HCG weeks 4 up till PCT. Not included with...You didn't mention when you were going to start PCT...
    Yes, add Clomid to your PCT.
    Never had BP issues so can't help there..Herbal remedies? Don't use them. Never really felt the need to try them.

    Of course, this is all for not if you don't have a proper diet in place.

    Good Luck...

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    Damn computer...Sorry.

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    Excellent recommendations gentlemen...thank you for your feedback. Agreed, stpete...tren has always been great at adding the pounds, but the ole joints got a little sore on them so I figured deca would be a nice change. The reason for the prop...well b/c I have it? haha, I know not a good enough reason to throw into the mix but the fast acting properties intrigued me. My PCT will be started week 17. To mmeraji, while I am not prone to gyno I always use AI to keep bloat to a minimum. Also, thanks for the clomid recommendation...so many conflicting articles these days claiming clomid is not needed.

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    swap the nolva for torem for pct... much better, helps with prolactin and MUCH better with the HPTA.

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    I like Tren much better than DECA for bulking, Deca doesn't really work for me oddly enough.

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    I like deca/dbol combo better than tren for bulking. Plus tren is hell on my joints. Like you, deca really gives them a little extra cushion. Cycle looks good as is!

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    Yea I never heard anyone else say that Deca doesn't work for them but I've tried 2 different reputable labs, ran it for long enough and Test only would been the same or better. I know it Doesn't make sense but my body just doesn't respond to Deca, joint comfort is nice indeed and I do get that but nothing else from Deca. It will probably work for you thou, I am an exception on this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maulx View Post
    swap the nolva for torem for pct... much better, helps with prolactin and MUCH better with the HPTA.
    Explain....Cause i'm a little confused.

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    Yes, do explain. Share you experience and any other relevant information.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maulx View Post
    swap the nolva for torem for pct... much better, helps with prolactin and MUCH better with the HPTA.

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    Oh god yea...tren thrashed my joints.

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    I usually start glucosamine 1 month before a Tren cycle. Seems to do the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superaverage
    Well don't read into my post as a chronology of my workouts/life there is more to the story than a thread I post...there has been a lot of stuff gone on in my life that could answer your question of "only 170lbs" namely illness, but that is neither here nor there now that I am 100% healthy. Moreover, everyone is different, every body is different...coming from a frame of 125lbs good sir to 170lbs for me could hardly happen without cycles. So, with that my goals have varied throughout my cycles. Being a goal oriented person myself, I for the most, obtained those goals and I hope to this one.
    Well said my man I had the same problem as you with illness and what not. Awesome physique well done

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