First Cycle Questions

[diesel89]

Hey all,

Being that his is my first post on these forums I just want to thank everyone for educating me as I have been a long time reader on these websites. After much debate I have decided to try my first cycle. I have been working out for about 4years, I am 23, 5'10", and 180lbs. I have made some good natural gains and after talking to my doctor and many of my other friends who bodybuild, I have decided to start my first cycle. I am thinking of sus and deca for about 10-12 weeks. I am still ironing out the details and plan on starting up in about a month but what do you guys think of this as a first cycle?

[gixxerboy1]

your young i wouldnt recommend it yet.
But def dont stack on your first cycle. You dont know how you will respond and if you have issues or side effects you dont know what chemicals are causing it

[diesel89]

I know that my age may deter some from what I'm about to do but thats not what I'm asking. I am someone who does quite a bit of research both in terms of studies and in terms of asking people who are within the field and I have come to the conclusion that there is not enough conclusive evidence for it being harmful because of age. This whole 25 years old as being a magical number for when it is ok to start doesnt really maek too much sense to me. I understand the risks involved and I am willing to go forth with it and once again this is not my question. My question is what people would recommend as a first cycle.

[dooie]

I know that my age may deter some from what I'm about to do but thats not what I'm asking. I am someone who does quite a bit of research both in terms of studies and in terms of asking people who are within the field and I have come to the conclusion that there is not enough conclusive evidence for it being harmful because of age. This whole 25 years old as being a magical number for when it is ok to start doesnt really maek too much sense to me. I understand the risks involved and I am willing to go forth with it and once again this is not my question. My question is what people would recommend as a first cycle.

Liquify chicken and potato bake put it in a syringe and inject 3times a week (chickens half life is around 3days) knock yourself out bro!

[tommy0677]

Stick with a Test E or C for a first cycle. Don't go jumping the gun and taking a stack right off the bat and expecting miracles. Follow gixxerboy1's advice and keep your first cycle simple to see how you react. The reasoning behind the "magical 25" start is because most men start to make less natural test at or around that age, read a biology text and find out for yourself. Also for whatever god you believe ins sake... READ READ READ and LEARN. Don't be afraid to ask any of the older members for advice, I know I've grilled a few before my first cycle and I may have asked some dumb $hit but I'm glad I did.

***Took me 6 years but I finally hit 200 posts*** HAHAHA

[xelnaga]

Liquify chicken and potato bake put it in a syringe and inject 3times a week (chickens half life is around 3days) knock yourself out bro!

Bro- Have you considered the hazards of injecting poultry? In addition to that you're advising additional compounds. Baked potato is a beast and not recommended for newbies.

[Razor]

***Took me 6 years but I finally hit 200 posts*** HAHAHA

Cause its Friday bitches. Took me 2 months to hit 400 and for slfmade took him 2 months to hit 800. fcking whore

[dooie]

Stick with a Test E or C for a first cycle. Don't go jumping the gun and taking a stack right off the bat and expecting miracles. Follow gixxerboy1's advice and keep your first cycle simple to see how you react. The reasoning behind the "magical 25" start is because most men start to make less natural test at or around that age, read a biology text and find out for yourself. Also for whatever god you believe ins sake... READ READ READ and LEARN. Don't be afraid to ask any of the older members for advice, I know I've grilled a few before my first cycle and I may have asked some dumb $hit but I'm glad I did.

***Took me 6 years but I finally hit 200 posts*** HAHAHA

Great 200th post mate, congrats!!, your giving usage information out to a person under 25! No wonder it took you 6 years to get 200

[dooie]

Bro- Have you considered the hazards of injecting poultry? In addition to that you're advising additional compounds. Baked potato is a beast and not recommended for newbies.

Sorry Mate OP just stick with the chicken then! And remember time off = time on + PCT

[diesel89]

Great 200th post mate, congrats!!, your giving usage information out to a person under 25! No wonder it took you 6 years to get 200

well look instead of giving me the whole "your under 25 thing" at least he did recommend something. Better to hear some answers to the questions I've asked rather than running in circles and telling me something that is not the answer to which I asked. Y'all need to remember not everyone's goal is to bench 550 or body build. Some of us are athletes and need it for other things. Some of us have worked out for a while and know that it takes time to get big but need to get there sooner for other reasons.

[tommy0677]

Great 200th post mate, congrats!!, your giving usage information out to a person under 25! No wonder it took you 6 years to get 200

OMG he's so fvcken young at 22. Pull your head out your a$$. My advice is better than your bs post. I only post to try to educate and not wh0re like new users haha. So yes, it was an excellent 200th post IMHO mate. If he's set on doing it, why not try to help so he doesn't get hurt. But to the OP, don't go starting numerous posts asking the same questions.

[Razor]

OMG he's so fvcken young at 24. Pull your head out your a$$. My advice is better than your bs post. I only post to try to educate and not wh0re like new users haha. So yes, it was an excellent 200th post IMHO mate.

Haha dog fight!

[tommy0677]

Haha dog fight!

Hahaha quit stirring the pot. I'll probably wh0re a bit now with this app though lol.

Oh and to those under 18 say no to beer because you're under the legal age haha. Hope that makes up for my advice earlier???

[dooie]

OMG he's so fvcken young at 22. Pull your head out your a$$. My advice is better than your bs post. I only post to try to educate and not wh0re like new users haha. So yes, it was an excellent 200th post IMHO mate. If he's set on doing it, why not try to help so he doesn't get hurt. But to the OP, don't go starting numerous posts asking the same questions.

Alright great post bro, at least your happy about it!

He's set on doing it, ppl come here for advice and knowledge, you don't give advice for someone that is under the age of 25 bro, how do u know what will happen to him? Or how he will recover. it's not that hard to give someone facts and previous experiences of other members that did it when they were young, and now are on trt or can't get erections, or acne and scars over their body and face

OP
Look at it this way, if you inject test into your body, your body will tell itself it has too much so it shuts down ur natural test production because you have so much and doesn't need to produce it anymore, but also, your body is very good at counteracting things, so because you have so much test, ur body will then start to produce more estrogen, and this is where the bad sides come from, bitch tits, acne, ED

So what if you never recover from this, at 22 your test is/should be at its highest peak, why fvck that up? Use it to your advantage, do some research and hold off for a while!

[dooie]

Hahaha quit stirring the pot. I'll probably wh0re a bit now with this app though lol.

Oh and to those under 18 say no to beer because you're under the legal age haha. Hope that makes up for my advice earlier???

Nope.. because under 18s aren't allowed on this site mate

[Razor]

I like apples

[bookie]

I have been told Test E is a good one which is mild compared to the rest especially sus. I also agree with the age issue but as I understand it is not your concern.

[dooie]

I have been told Test E is a good one which is mild compared to the rest especially sus. I also agree with the age issue but as I understand it is not your concern.

Test is test! Only difference is injection frequency, oh and some hurt more than others

[tommy0677]

I like apples

I like apples too

[tommy0677]

Alright great post bro, at least your happy about it!

He's set on doing it, ppl come here for advice and knowledge, you don't give advice for someone that is under the age of 25 bro, how do u know what will happen to him? Or how he will recover. it's not that hard to give someone facts and previous experiences of other members that did it when they were young, and now are on trt or can't get erections, or acne and scars over their body and face

OP
Look at it this way, if you inject test into your body, your body will tell itself it has too much so it shuts down ur natural test production because you have so much and doesn't need to produce it anymore, but also, your body is very good at counteracting things, so because you have so much test, ur body will then start to produce more estrogen, and this is where the bad sides come from, bitch tits, acne, ED

So what if you never recover from this, at 22 your test is/should be at its highest peak, why fvck that up? Use it to your advantage, do some research and hold off for a while!

I've never gotten any of those scary sides you're talking about in your post, but I know they do happen to some. But if you actually knew what you were writing about you'd know everyone who does AAS has their body shutdown test production at any age, women included. You'd also know that not every AAS causes estrogen to sky rocket and that estrogen is not necessarily a bad thing. As for being on HRT when you're older just use it to your advantage, ED is kind of a moot point with things such as Cialis 5mg daily dose available (swear by it and I've never had ED before or since and it's good for many other things than just wood), Acne is treatable and scars can be lasered away like tattoos.

The OP should read more and not BS about knowing so much as should you, I know I sure as hell don't know everything about AAS but that's why I'm here to learn from others reactions and experiences. Like I said earlier READ & LEARN before you stick yourself and if you have questions don't be afraid to ask others for their advice & experiences. Remember there's no minimum age to ask for advice or to share it.

I forgot to ask earlier dooie what your age was and AAS experience is? Just asking because in your posts you're 5lbs heavier than the OP, you're 23??? and you've asked about some of the stacks you've been interested in starting. Do you have b!tch t!ts, acne, acne scars and ED???

[Awesome_Archy]

Haha dog fight!

HAHA Razr. instigating the fight so you can swoop in on the girls while their boyfriends are busy.

CLASSIC

[diesel89]

this is hilarious I like apples too. Whatever I'm seeing a doctor that specializes in this. Well see how my blood tests go and what not and then I'll make my decision. If all looks good then well give it a whirl and I'll let you guys know how it went. You guys all need to remember that everyone is different you're probably right that until you are done developing you probably shouldn't take steroids but who is to say when that is? On another unrelated note when I was young and growing at an exponential rate they used to say that I would be over 6'5"...boy were they wrong...I missed that mark by over half a foot...they also told me that I would keep gaining height until I was 21...I've been 5'10" since I was 15 lol. All I'm trying to say is that you cannot classify everyone under one category its like telling a 150lb person and a 250lb person that they can both absorb only 30g of protein in one sitting. Thank you to one person for providing an answer to my question.

[dooie]

I've never gotten any of those scary sides you're talking about in your post, but I know they do happen to some. But if you actually knew what you were writing about you'd know everyone who does AAS has their body shutdown test production at any age, women included. You'd also know that not every AAS causes estrogen to sky rocket and that estrogen is not necessarily a bad thing. As for being on HRT when you're older just use it to your advantage, ED is kind of a moot point with things such as Cialis 5mg daily dose available (swear by it and I've never had ED before or since and it's good for many other things than just wood), Acne is treatable and scars can be lasered away like tattoos.

The OP should read more and not BS about knowing so much as should you, I know I sure as hell don't know everything about AAS but that's why I'm here to learn from others reactions and experiences. Like I said earlier READ & LEARN before you stick yourself and if you have questions don't be afraid to ask others for their advice & experiences. Remember there's no minimum age to ask for advice or to share it.

I forgot to ask earlier dooie what your age was and AAS experience is? Just asking because in your posts you're 5lbs heavier than the OP, you're 23??? and you've asked about some of the stacks you've been interested in starting. Do you have b!tch t!ts, acne, acne scars and ED???

Keep this up and you'll have 300 posts in no time! I know what to do to counteract these sides etc but the OP is young and should wait a few more years, what about his HPTA and endocrine system?? I was 185lbs and 23 when I joined bro, i am 25 now and haven't cycled since I joined and i have gained a few pounds plus lost body fat! Naturally, now I have a better base to start with and have the knowledge to keep my gains when I go on!

I don't need to argue with you, there are a so many knowledgable members on here that if they saw this post they would say OP don't cycle, learn to diet and learn more about what your putting in your body!

[tommy0677]

Keep this up and you'll have 300 posts in no time! I know what to do to counteract these sides etc but the OP is young and should wait a few more years, what about his HPTA and endocrine system?? I was 185lbs and 23 when I joined bro, i am 25 now and haven't cycled since I joined and i have gained a few pounds plus lost body fat! Naturally, now I have a better base to start with and have the knowledge to keep my gains when I go on!

I don't need to argue with you, there are a so many knowledgable members on here that if they saw this post they would say OP don't cycle, learn to diet and learn more about what your putting in your body!

Bro or whatever will make you happy by me calling you something, you've got no cycle experience, you're a fvcking parrot probably to every knowledgeable member on here or at least try to be. Oh wise 1 of 25, share your vast knowledge with me. Shut the fvck up.

To the OP, if you truly are seeing a specialized doctor follow what he/she recommends. But if you decided to do this on your own, do it safely and learn first from others and most importantly DON'T BE A FVCKING PARROT like that other twat and think you know anything.

300 here I come hahaha!!!

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[gixxerboy1]

this is hilarious I like apples too. Whatever I'm seeing a doctor that specializes in this. Well see how my blood tests go and what not and then I'll make my decision. If all looks good then well give it a whirl and I'll let you guys know how it went. You guys all need to remember that everyone is different you're probably right that until you are done developing you probably shouldn't take steroids but who is to say when that is? On another unrelated note when I was young and growing at an exponential rate they used to say that I would be over 6'5"...boy were they wrong...I missed that mark by over half a foot...they also told me that I would keep gaining height until I was 21...I've been 5'10" since I was 15 lol. All I'm trying to say is that you cannot classify everyone under one category its like telling a 150lb person and a 250lb person that they can both absorb only 30g of protein in one sitting. Thank you to one person for providing an answer to my question.

there is no blood test to tell if your endocrine system is fully developed. Height has nothing to do with it. Just like your brain isnt fully developed until almost 30 years old. Your endocrine system isnt developed to around 25. Yes everyone is different. so maybe yours isnt fully developed until your 27. so shutting down an undeveloped system and permanently damage it.

[dooie]

there is no blood test to tell if your endocrine system is fully developed. Height has nothing to do with it. Just like your brain isnt fully developed until almost 30 years old. Your endocrine system isnt developed to around 25. Yes everyone is different. so maybe yours isnt fully developed until your 27. so shutting down an undeveloped system and permanently damage it.

Thanks gixxer!

[dooie]

Bro or whatever will make you happy by me calling you something, you've got no cycle experience, you're a fvcking parrot probably to every knowledgeable member on here or at least try to be. Oh wise 1 of 25, share your vast knowledge with me. Shut the fvck up.

To the OP, if you truly are seeing a specialized doctor follow what he/she recommends. But if you decided to do this on your own, do it safely and learn first from others and most importantly DON'T BE A FVCKING PARROT like that other twat and think you know anything.

300 here I come hahaha!!!

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I work in the industry mate, and I didn't say I haven't had any cycle experience!

[BBrian]

I did my first cycle at the age of 23 also. I did a simple Sustanon 250 cycle for 10 weeks, the gains were simply amazing, and I had no regrets.