need help please!!

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ok so i am an idiot pretty much, and i have realized that, i took my first shot for sus 250 yesterday which was 250mg, after doing a lot of research i think i am way to young (20) and should wait couple of more years until i decide to do a cycle, so my question is should i take pct after that one shot ? or i will be fine?

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[buster12]

You are too young
1 shot no pct you will be fine
Clean good diet and work hard in the Gym

[The Bear 79]

YES! Run PCT, 250 mg of Test. is mor than enuf 2 shut u down.

[alexISthrowed]

I honestly don't think 1 shot of 250mg of test will shut you down.

[The Bear 79]

You are too young
1 shot no pct you will be fine
Clean good diet and work hard in the Gym

He already stated he was 2 yung, for u to re-state it is just redundant. And I would luv 2 c wut info u hav that can support ur claim that no PCT is necessary after a 250 mg shot of Test.

[wormwood]

Run a PCT and you will be absolutely fine; no need to worry. Congrats on being smart and making the right choice.

[The Bear 79]

I honestly don't think 1 shot of 250mg of test will shut you down.

Think of it this way bro. The adult male naturally produces between 5 & 15 mg per day of Test., if u inject 250 mg & it lasts for 3 days (short ester) ur natty production is gona stop bcuz ur already way overloaded with Test.

[jasc]

Think of it this way bro. The adult male naturally produces between 5 & 15 mg per day of Test., if u inject 250 mg & it lasts for 3 days (short ester) ur natty production is gona stop bcuz ur already way overloaded with Test.

I'm gonna have to side with alex, although I could be wrong.

[BBrian]

And I would luv 2 c wut info u hav that can support ur claim that no PCT is necessary after a 250 mg shot of Test.

At the age of 20, I have a hard time believing that his nads aren't going to rebound on their own after a mere single shot of 250mg of test. At 23, I did sustanon 250 for 10 weeks, knew nothing of pct, and my natural levels rebounded within a month, and I actually kept nearly all of my gains. When I was around 25, being severely allergic to poison ivy, my mother who is a nurse brought home a single ml shot of deca and injected it into my hip, which rid me of the rash. Now, I believe it's common sense that 1 shot of deca is far more effective in atrophying the gonads than 1 shot of test. That one shot of deca made me feel like a beast in the gym for a week, then for about two weeks I felt like a weakling, then all was back to normal. I know this is "broscience" but speaking from experience at around that age, I seriously do not think this guy needs to worry about pct, although places like GNC sell over the counter PCT supplements that have absolutely worked for me after doing a 10 week cycle of deca (I had no source for PCT's back then). Don't sweat it zoom, just keep working out and eating good food and you'll be fine.

[jasc]

I've seen many posts/write-ups saying that 19 nor's can shut you down after a single shot, but never seen anything to support a shot of sust doing this..

need some clarification on this.. calling all vets! marcus, swifto, gixx drop some knowledge on us

[alexISthrowed]

I've seen many posts/write-ups saying that 19 nor's can shut you down after a single shot, but never seen anything to support a shot of sust doing this..

need some clarification on this.. calling all vets! marcus, swifto, gixx drop some knowledge on us

Yeah I would like to know, I've read it takes a couple weeks for hpta to become suppressed, but I don't have any studies showing this.

[The Bear 79]

Its been a long time, but I read somewhere that 250 mg of Test. can shut u down within 14 days. I cant remember if it was a single inj or 250 mg/wk.

[felk87]

Im not home right now but i have a saved thread on this topic from a different forum ill post it, i though it suppressed it right away if its a fast acting ester, but other one take longer...any way i dount that one shot will need a full pct cycle maybe some but not an intense one

[razorhunter]

At the age of 20, I have a hard time believing that his nads aren't going to rebound on their own after a mere single shot of 250mg of test. At 23, I did sustanon 250 for 10 weeks, knew nothing of pct, and my natural levels rebounded within a month, and I actually kept nearly all of my gains. When I was around 25, being severely allergic to poison ivy, my mother who is a nurse brought home a single ml shot of deca and injected it into my hip, which rid me of the rash. Now, I believe it's common sense that 1 shot of deca is far more effective in atrophying the gonads than 1 shot of test. That one shot of deca made me feel like a beast in the gym for a week, then for about two weeks I felt like a weakling, then all was back to normal. I know this is "broscience" but speaking from experience at around that age, I seriously do not think this guy needs to worry about pct, although places like GNC sell over the counter PCT supplements that have absolutely worked for me after doing a 10 week cycle of deca (I had no source for PCT's back then). Don't sweat it zoom, just keep working out and eating good food and you'll be fine.

Hey BBrian,
Nice post. I like the info you just posted. I know someone who is currently two weeks into a 12 week Test Cyp cycle (33yr old male), it's his first cycle.
He too started without the knowledge of PCT/etc, and therefore he has no PCT gear source. (actually might have Clomid source soon, but no HCG or aromisin source at all)

SO, my question is in regards to your GNC over the counter PCT recommendation.
Would these GNC over the counter PCT products work well enough after 12 week Test CYP cylce?
What PCT products from GNC do you recommend? Thanks.

[The Bear 79]

I wouldn't advise using an otc PCT, no matter wut any1 sez. Over the counter PCT is useless bullsh!t, if u recover using this crap, then u got lucky.

[Razor]

Could he not just run 2000-3000mg of trib a day for 2 weeks?

[razorhunter]

Thanks bear, so no go on the OTC PCT.

[The Bear 79]

Thanks bear, so no go on the OTC PCT.

Nolva should do. U prob dont need 2 run a 4 wk PCT so I would suggest 40/20


Edit: This post was directed @ / meant 4 the OP. That's y I only suggested a 2 wk PCT. I didn't realize @ the moment, razorhunter wasn't the OP.

[razorhunter]

Lemme ask you guys another dumb question, and clear up some gym myths, or possible gym truths.
How does one know when he has been shut down? I mean, if your nads shrink, is that the main sign, or can you be shut down without nad shrinkage?
Guys at gym say thats the indicator. I tend to think you guys will say something else.

[The Bear 79]

I guess that could b a sign but U can use HCG while on cycle & suffer 0 testicular atrophy. IMO, there is no clear cut sign of being shut down, its just a given, if u use steroids, ur HPTA will shut down.

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so many different opinions, so even if i was to run pct, how much nolva should i run and should i wait a bit more to start it or just do it now?

[The Bear 79]

so many different opinions, so even if i was to run pct, how much nolva should i run and should i wait a bit more to start it or just do it now?

Run 40 mg/ed for 1 wk & then 20 mg/ed for 1 wk.