Any body did x-tren

[mrrell]

is it a good one and how well does it work???

[DanB]

wouldnt take it if you paid me, from what i know of tren precusors you should expect short term gains which you will lose after cycle and massive side effects

[mrrell]

Oh wow really what would u think would be better than xtren???

[mrrell]

I cant get the real the good stuff so i heard this was the next best thing???

[The Bear 79]

What are your stats, goals, & cycle history? And what cycle are you purposing with this Tren.?

[Matt]

Isn't x-tren a crappy supplement??

[The Bear 79]

Isn't x-tren a crappy supplement??

Yeah I just got done doing a search on it, cause I've never heard of it. Everything I find on it says its a supp. There's even a company that goes by that name & sell that product.

[mrrell]

Well im 150 trying to get to one 180 ive been eating at least 5 or more a day drinking water go to the gym three days on to off asked around the gym and they the supplements xtren and finaplex where to break thru to my peak because it seems i cant gain any more wait and im getting really upset knowing im doing everything in power to get bigger started out at like 140 tho

[mrrell]

Oh yea never did a cycle just a bunch of supplements never found the real thing yet sadly im looking tho just want strength and size been at it for a year

[The Bear 79]

How old are you? How tall are you? What is your BF%? "xtren" is not the "Tren" the guys at the gym are thinking it is.

[mrrell]

Im 23 and im 5'9 and dont kno my exact bf but its gotta be like 20 percent or less i guess because there little to no fat on me

[The Bear 79]

OK, revision, I just found some info about X Tren. apparently there IS a real Tren by that name. And in that case OP, you should stay away from it until you're more exp with steroids, it is the most powerful 19 nor available & can have some pretty nasty side effects that can take an inexperienced user by surprise & possibly do some irreversible damage.

[The Bear 79]

Im 23 and im 5'9 and dont kno my exact bf but its gotta be like 20 percent or less i guess because there little to no fat on me

If your willing to post a pic, we can help you gauge your BF. But at 23 yrs old, your body should be producing more than enough of the necessary hormones to make some very impressive gains naturally. If you cycle right now, there is significantly greater risk of doing potentially irreversible damage to your undeveloped Endocrine & HPTA. Also, your stats indicate, your diet may need a little work.

[mrrell]

Well thanks for your help bout to put a pic in a sec this first time so i dont kno much really

[The Bear 79]

Well thanks for your help bout to put a pic in a sec this first time so i dont kno much really

You've come to the right place to learn bro.

[mrrell]

Here is my pic

[The Bear 79]

You can very faintly see the 2 upper abs. I'm gona guess 15% +/- What does your diet & training consist of?

[felk87]

14-15%

[mrrell]

First is that bad and mostly just alot meat and beans

[felk87]

First is that bad and mostly just alot meat and beans

Not necessarily, you are at the peak of the recommended bf for aas...but you could train for a few months and get into better natural physic drop your bf a bit and if you still want aas....you can run them then....but for now i would say eat more train harder and read more threads on here ...to me it just looks like you need more training before thinking about cycling, just imo...but a vet could advise.other wise.

[mrrell]

Ok thankx for the advice ima most def train harder i need to prolly eat more

[BBrian]

At 23 years old, 5'9" and 150 lbs, you definitely have far more potential than you have reached thus far. Right now you need to concentrate on finding the best diet and workout routines possible for you. Go to the nutrition section and post your exact diet, i.e. what your meals consist of and at what times of the day you are eating them, as well as at what times of the day you are working out in contrast to your meals, and spend some time reading the stickies in that section regarding a diet that relates to bulking. Also go to the workout section and start studying up on bulking routines. I completely understand your desire to break your plateau, but right now anabolic steroids are not the answer - a better diet and workout regimen are.

[mrrell]

Ok cool i will least exactly what i eat and the times but why are steroids the answer because people are doing it they said if i do one cycle and get off i would be in great shape is that horrible advice because im young or because i just need to eat right before i used anabolics???

[mrrell]

And be honest i just go to the gym a do whatever i feel which is mostly bench and inclind bench and dumbells and maybe swats but they hurt my back alot so i tend to do less of those

[BBrian]

Well, to be vague, doing a cycle of anabolics will typically make you look and feel great while you're on them, but when you stop using them you will find your body reverting right back to its prior shape. This is why diet and exercise are so important. Maintaining the gains made while on a cycle are very difficult to achieve and rely heavily on how good your diet and exercise are during and after a cycle.

[BBrian]

And be honest i just go to the gym a do whatever i feel which is mostly bench and inclind bench and dumbells and maybe swats but they hurt my back alot so i tend to do less of those

My friend you have a lot of research to do in the way of exercise. Don't take that as pessimism, take it as a matter of fact.

[mrrell]

I really do what do u prescribe as a good workout routine??? And what is good to eat daily to muscle in my case mass ???

[alexISthrowed]

I really do what do u prescribe as a good workout routine??? And what is good to eat daily to muscle in my case mass ???

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...M#.Tx23xG8eMus
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...S#.Tx231G8eMus

Spend some time in these sections and get that diet worked out and a good training routine put together. You will be growing before you know it!

[mrrell]

Thanx alot

[bugsysiegals]

I've used X-Tren prior to using real Testosterone. In fact, I ended up buying like 12 bottles of the stuff cause it worked so well. I'd put on 10 pounds and have very good strength gains but as said before the strength went away and so did most of the gains. I never thought I'd take real steroids so I thought oh this is just a "pro-hormone" so it's ok but the truth is this is a designer steroid ... period! What's worse is it's an oral and must pass through the liver so in my opinion is worse than testosterone injections ... thus the reason I switched to the real thing eventually. Just my 2 cents.

[SMcB]

I've used X-Tren prior to using real Testosterone. In fact, I ended up buying like 12 bottles of the stuff cause it worked so well. I'd put on 10 pounds and have very good strength gains but as said before the strength went away and so did most of the gains. I never thought I'd take real steroids so I thought oh this is just a "pro-hormone" so it's ok but the truth is this is a designer steroid ... period! What's worse is it's an oral and must pass through the liver so in my opinion is worse than testosterone injections ... thus the reason I switched to the real thing eventually. Just my 2 cents.

Wow, you had the exact experience as I did with the Xtreme-Tren! This was the first real cycle I did and I took just one bottle. Lasted about 5 weeks for me. Put on 10 lbs. and bench and squat went up by around 40 lbs. each. Was ignorant about PCT and thought that the 6-OXO supplement was enough. Lost EVERYTHING (size and strength) within a month after being off. I totally agree that this Tren 'supplement' was basically a designer steroid and it must have shut me down if I lost the gains that quickly. They say it is supposed to be an oral version of real trenbolone, but the active ingredient (19-nor) looked more like Deca. How many mgs. of test have you taken? How were the gains compared to the X-tren?

[The Bear 79]

I dont think you guys are talking about a steroid at all, You're talking about a supplement named "X Tren", if you were talking about Trebolone Acetate or Trenbolone Enanthate, it would not have been a pill & the end result would have most likely been disastrous having been used without Test. The results you got were most likely from the enhanced effort you put forth at the gym cause you thought you were using a steroid. BTW, 19 nor is not an ingredient, 19 nor means that a testosterone molecule has been altered at the 19th position. Deca & Tren are both 19 nor compounds.

[mrrell]

Oh wow i feel yea i thought it prolly would work but as u said it has temporary gains i want permanent hains so what real thing did u switch too sust or deca???

[The Bear 79]

I hope I don't offend you when I say, your posts are oozing of a dangerous lack of knowledge. All steroids have temporary gains, you will lose 30 - 50% of your gains EVERY TIME. What do you know about Sust & Deca? I'm not being condescending, its a real question, I want to know what knowledge base you have of these compounds, or any compound for that matter.

[audixieboy]

Bear, you are very helpful with this information, really appreciate it. Are the items on this site worth it, or are you guys talking about the real stuff that I am not able to get my hands on?

[mrrell]

Ok i dont much but that deca dosent have alot of effects but it gives u mass and bulk than sust and sust has more side effects but ot gives u alot of mass and strength its more likely to give u quick gains right???

[The Bear 79]

Ok i dont much but that deca dosent have alot of effects but it gives u mass and bulk than sust and sust has more side effects but ot gives u alot of mass and strength its more likely to give u quick gains right???

Wrong, you have the side effects backwards. I don't wana know how much you know about the gains that can be made on each compound, I wana know what you know about the compound itself. What do you know about the esters, what is a 19 nor & what makes them so suppressive, what effects do different compounds have on BP & so on & so on.

[The Bear 79]

Bear, you are very helpful with this information, really appreciate it. Are the items on this site worth it, or are you guys talking about the real stuff that I am not able to get my hands on?

If you're talking about the stuff you can buy from "buy steroids . com", they are supplements with steroid names, I'm not saying they're worthless, I'm just saying they are not steroids & they will not give you steroid results. The research chems from our other sponsor AR-R is completely 100% real & legit. As far as your ability to get your hands on some real gear, well that boils down to your ability to find a legit source.

[mrrell]

Uh truthfully i dont kno about the compounds in them what are they and what do they do???

[mrrell]

Bear, you are very helpful with this information, really appreciate it. Are the items on this site worth it, or are you guys talking about the real stuff that I am not able to get my hands on?

I just researched and AR-R is legit far as read tho