Great News For Depression Sufferers....

[Shol'va]

Ok guys we all have occasional bouts of the blues and some here have long term depression cycles. I occasionally suffer the blues during the winter months myself. But I was watching the ABC Evening news tonight and they were talking about a club drug Special-K or Ketamine, that instantly reverses depression. Read some of it for yourself. Of course much more research is needed to see where it all goes. But so far it is very exciting news for those who have relied on Paxil, Zoloft and all those other drugs that really don't work very well if at all. And not to mention the side affects of them. I'm just wondering if taking it regularly can just keep you in a permanent great mood. That would be great.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_1...instantly-how/

[jimmyinkedup]

using 1 gram per day results in the total distruction of the bladder in 70% of users. They end up having a serious operation that creates a new bladder from large intestine and they need to csatheterize themselves for life.
Saw that on a Nat Geo special...its a huge problem in Toronto Canada.

[AllAmerican-PCS]

using 1 gram per day results in the total distruction of the bladder in 70% of users. They end up having a serious operation that creates a new bladder from large intestine and they need to csatheterize themselves for life.
Saw that on a Nat Geo special...its a huge problem in Toronto Canada.

About every medical prescription out there i see or hear about has more side effects than it does to help you out....If i remember right, it was Jeff Foxworthy on the Blue tour that explained my very point! funny shit!

[Shol'va]

Well that sucks. The way they were talking on the news it was like the greatest breakthrough in the last 50 years on depression remedies. However they did say they were working to isolate the main chemical in the Ketamine that does the job of reversing the depression. But in tests hours after taking the drug the depression was totally gone and the mood was way elevated. Hopefully they will come up with something better than is now out on the market like Prozac and such. Hell we all could use a good mood elevator from time to time

[Gaspari1255]

If you've ever seen someone in a "K-hole" you would never touch this shit...

[supersize me]

using 1 gram per day results in the total distruction of the bladder in 70% of users. They end up having a serious operation that creates a new bladder from large intestine and they need to csatheterize themselves for life.
Saw that on a Nat Geo special...its a huge problem in Toronto Canada.

Saw the exact same special. There's no way it will ever be prescribed for depression. That one guy was urinating 200+ times a day because it'd destroyed his bladder. Now he has to pee into a bag by inserting a straw in his pecker and draining his makeshift bladder. I'll take being depressed and a normal bladder over happy with a screwed up one anyday.

[tcw]

^^Gotdayum!

Guess what...the largest anti-depressant used in most European countries is?

Saint Johns Wart. It works. Used on days when i'm feeling a little down. Take 2-3 pills. Works for me (and apparently many others in Europe).

[Honkey_Kong]

Shol'va, this is that video on National Geographic about Ketamine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Etl7WmttO4

[Shol'va]

Shol'va, this is that video on National Geographic about Ketamine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Etl7WmttO4

Thanks I'll check it out a little later. Yeah I just happened to be watching the evening news tonight when the report came out on special k and treatment for depression. Should have known it was too good to be true. But maybe they can use something from it to help those really in need.

[tcw]

Wow...that's some bad chit man!

Shol'va, this is that video on National Geographic about Ketamine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Etl7WmttO4

[thegodfather]

And LSD is almost 100% effective in treating chronic migraines and cluster headaches, yet its percieved risks outweigh the benefits. A drug is always analyzed based on a risk vs. reward basis. Do the risks of giving you the drug far outweigh the potential rewards of giving it to you? This is even done with Prozac, etc, and so on. We risk an elevated rate in suicidality versus a person living a long and diminished quality of life with depression so bad they cannot move off of the couch, go outside, or function normally in society. These are the sorts of considerations that will plague the practice of medicine for centuries to come.

[Razor]

Sunlight lots of sunlight can cure depression. Increases serotonin which SSRI's try to minic such as paxil and zoloft and celexa.
I wake up in the morning and open all the sades in the house to get as much sunlight in as possible

[Flier]

Sunlight lots of sunlight can cure depression. Increases serotonin which SSRI's try to minic such as paxil and zoloft and celexa.
I wake up in the morning and open all the sades in the house to get as much sunlight in as possible

This is so true. Renting my last apt., view was on top of the must-have list.

[Times Roman]

using 1 gram per day results in the total distruction of the bladder in 70% of users. They end up having a serious operation that creates a new bladder from large intestine and they need to csatheterize themselves for life.
Saw that on a Nat Geo special...its a huge problem in Toronto Canada.

So it's only a short term cure for the blues

[gixxerboy1]

If you've ever seen someone in a "K-hole" you would never touch this shit...

been in a few of those

[Times Roman]

k-hole?

[gixxerboy1]

^^^yes.

[jasc]

K-hole refers to the feeling when you have taken drugs such as ketamine and it distorts reallity. It give's u tunnel vision and you almost lose your sense of reality. It looks as if you are seeing life through a keyhole or at the end of a dark tunnel.

From an outside perspective, it seems to others that you have lost it or are nearly passed out. Some people get violent, others get loopy.

A buddy of mine bartends at a place where the staff likes to use ketamine to get high at work. It usually turns bad when new employees decide they want to join n get too f'ed up n can't function.

Ketamine is also a popular date rape drug around here

[alexISthrowed]

K-hole refers to the feeling when you have taken drugs such as ketamine and it distorts reallity. It give's u tunnel vision and you almost lose your sense of reality. It looks as if you are seeing life through a keyhole or at the end of a dark tunnel

That would depress me.

[gixxerboy1]

K-hole refers to the feeling when you have taken drugs such as ketamine and it distorts reallity. It give's u tunnel vision and you almost lose your sense of reality. It looks as if you are seeing life through a keyhole or at the end of a dark tunnel

It never seemed like your seeing through a keyhole or a tunnel.
K-hole is past being high on k but where you are almost unconscious and out of it. Its a tranquilizer

[Flier]

That would depress me.

Would also be depressing to be with people who view life through a "K-hole".
Guess that´s why people who do drugs only have friends who do drugs.

[gixxerboy1]

Would also be depressing to be with people who view life through a "K-hole".
Guess that´s why people who do drugs only have friends who do drugs.

have you ever done K?

[jasc]

no that is when your high on k. Not a k hole as i know it. K-hole is past that where you are almost unconscious and out of it. Its a tranquilizer

Ahh.. we refer to that as going in to a K-hole up here.. The tunnel vision/keyhole aspect when people take too much and almost go unconscious n their vision is distorted.

I can see how people would also refer to being unconscious as a k-hole though

[Flier]

have you ever done K?

No, I´m curious, but I wouldn´t dare.

[Gaspari1255]

have you ever done K?

Us native New Jerseyians will always be the most up to date on rec drug and AAS knowledge....sad lol

[gixxerboy1]

NJ home of juice, drugs and strippers ah some days i do miss home

[Armykid93]

That's to bad it does so much harm. Doesn't test relieve depression?

[Hazard]

NJ home of juice, drugs and strippers ah some days i do miss home

I love how K is perceived as this ultra destructive substance here lmao! Jesus christ people..... in small doses it's harmless. It doesn't affect brain chemicals..... long term moderate to heavy usage causes problem with nerves and the bladder as was mentioned.

I do not condone its use ofcoarse..... but my god..... people who havn't done it know nothing about it. A K-Hole is MOST DEFINATELY not like seeing life through a key hole or tunnel vison lol. If you are in a K-hole..... you're not gunna remember much of anything. You're just tranquilized.... like a bump on a log and you're boring as fvck. No one wants to be in a K-Hole..... thats not the point of doing it. Most people achieve that state by pushing the envelope a little too far.

Gix..... me and you really hafta meet up next time ur in dirty jersey

~Haz~

[gonebluffn]

Never have time to be depressed.

[gixxerboy1]

Gix..... me and you really hafta meet up next time ur in dirty jersey

~Haz~

Definitely or get your ass down to south beach

[alexISthrowed]

I'd come to jersey but I do not own any affliction or ed hardy clothes.

[gixxerboy1]

Here is a good k-hole story

I bouncing one night and my gf is hanging out there with one of her friends. My girl tells me her friend is all ****ed up on the couch and wont come over. So i go and try and get her so i can keep an eye on her. So she doesnt want to come and is trying to get me to hang on the couch with her. So she says if i do a bump with her she will come. So i try and be fast and do it out of the top of the jar. As soon as i do it i felt it go up snd knew it was to much and i was going to be fvcked up. I bring her over by me and tell my boy he also works there im going to be retarded in 5 mins. A couple mins later im trying to hold myself up against the wall.

I wake u,p dont know how much later in my truck and my girl and her friend are drinking. We are in a parking lot of an after hours club. Apparently my boy got me out to my truck and i slept the rest of my shift. After the club closed the owner of my club drove my truck to the afterhours place so i had a place to go and put my pay for the night in the console. I went and partied for a few more hours

I called the owner the next day and apologized. Figured i was fired. He laughed at me called me a light weight and not to mention it again.

[Shol'va]

[jimmyinkedup]

I love how K is perceived as this ultra destructive substance here lmao! Jesus christ people..... in small doses it's harmless. It doesn't affect brain chemicals..... long term moderate to heavy usage causes problem with nerves and the bladder as was mentioned.

In the context of this thread the major bladder issues that effect 70% of user that use 1 gram per day could be very relevant. Who is to say that 200mgs/day for 5 or 10 years wouldnt have the same effect. They are talking about depression. People are often on those meds for years.

[Razor]

The thread title needs to be changed to "More Bad new for depression sufferers.."
Seriously if you have depression talk to your doctor about Seroquel.
It will fix you right up or just get lots of sun.

[lovbyts]

And LSD is almost 100% effective in treating chronic migraines and cluster headaches, yet its percieved risks outweigh the benefits. A drug is always analyzed based on a risk vs. reward basis. Do the risks of giving you the drug far outweigh the potential rewards of giving it to you? This is even done with Prozac, etc, and so on. We risk an elevated rate in suicidality versus a person living a long and diminished quality of life with depression so bad they cannot move off of the couch, go outside, or function normally in society. These are the sorts of considerations that will plague the practice of medicine for centuries to come.

Its funny you should mention LSD, I have heard about several studies where it was used successfully to treat Alzheimer, people who have seizures and a few other brain related problems.

[SexySweetheart]

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[Times Roman]

I don't know about all this drug talk, LSD, K, 'lectro shock treatment....

....all i know is that a nice bottle of bourbon works just fine for me.

And don't tell me I don't know about rec drugs. remember, i grew up in SF, a teenager in the very early 70's. That was the epicenter of the "cultural revolution".

[Honkey_Kong]

Its funny you should mention LSD, I have heard about several studies where it was used successfully to treat Alzheimer, people who have seizures and a few other brain related problems.

When I was in rehab as a teen, they showed us a video on them using LSD to treat alcoholics to pretty good success.

[cherrydrpepper]

I went through a severe depression that lasted years. I made a conscious decision to believe in a God out there and make my life and those around me better. There were a lot of little things but those were the two things that made me say "F this im not doing this anymore".

I think for maybe 15% of depression people there really is something majorly f-d up with their brain. The other 85% I think can come out of it when they make a conscious decision to fix things in their life and set goals and go for them.

Edit:

Isn't it ironic how many depressed people kill themselves and you can tie a direct link between their drug and alcoholc use to the suicide so we are going to treat depression with drugs? I don't thinik drugs should be off the table just not the first line of treatment