Sold My Viper (Kinda) Best way to get paid?

[slfmade]

So I just sold my Dodge Viper!!! Well sorta...I still have to get paid for it. I've never sold a car private party before. It's always been trade in. The guy wants to send me the payment via wire transfer tomorrow and then come pick it up over the weekend. I'm not very good with trusting the general public so my question is.....Is this form of payment safe?

I know there was a deal going on a few years back about people giving fake money orders. The way the scam worked was people would give fake cashiers checks as payment. You deposited the money, then 10 days later the bank would find out it was fake and hold you responsible for paying back the funds. I also used to sell stuff on Ebay. And people would pay for via Credit Card/Pay Pal and then dispute the charge after they got it. Pay Pal was a pain is a pain in the ass and looks more after the buyer than the seller and I've lost thousands in the past. I'm tired of being screwed and this is just too much money to risk it.

I just wanta make sure there's no way he can wire the funds, then reverse it, or screw me somehow.

P.S. The guy lives in Alberta Canada if that makes any difference.

Thanks For the Help

[gixxerboy1]

i would call your bank to ask about that

[Razor]

So I just sold my Dodge Viper!!! Well sorta...I still have to get paid for it. I've never sold a car private party before. It's always been trade in. The guy wants to send me the payment via wire transfer tomorrow and then come pick it up over the weekend. I'm not very good with trusting the general public so my question is.....Is this form of payment safe?

I know there was a deal going on a few years back about people giving fake money orders. The way the scam worked was people would give fake cashiers checks as payment. You deposited the money, then 10 days later the bank would find out it was fake and hold you responsible for paying back the funds. I also used to sell stuff on Ebay. And people would pay for via Credit Card/Pay Pal and then dispute the charge after they got it. Pay Pal was a pain is a pain in the ass and looks more after the buyer than the seller and I've lost thousands in the past. I'm tired of being screwed and this is just too much money to risk it.

I just wanta make sure there's no way he can wire the funds, then reverse it, or screw me somehow.

P.S. The guy lives in Alberta Canada if that makes any difference.

Thanks For the Help

Once its wired and deposited it cannot be reversed..Call the bank to confirm the transfer..You still hold the car keys and the title im guessing, so its not like he is driving off with your car without payment. You should be fine once the wire comes through..is he coming to pick it up or are you shipping it..if your shipping absolutely make sure the wire is done b4 any shipping takes place.. that is were scammers come in..

[DanB]

So I just sold my Dodge Viper!!! Well sorta...I still have to get paid for it. I've never sold a car private party before. It's always been trade in. The guy wants to send me the payment via wire transfer tomorrow and then come pick it up over the weekend. I'm not very good with trusting the general public so my question is.....Is this form of payment safe?

I know there was a deal going on a few years back about people giving fake money orders. The way the scam worked was people would give fake cashiers checks as payment. You deposited the money, then 10 days later the bank would find out it was fake and hold you responsible for paying back the funds. I also used to sell stuff on Ebay. And people would pay for via Credit Card/Pay Pal and then dispute the charge after they got it. Pay Pal was a pain is a pain in the ass and looks more after the buyer than the seller and I've lost thousands in the past. I'm tired of being screwed and this is just too much money to risk it.

I just wanta make sure there's no way he can wire the funds, then reverse it, or screw me somehow.

P.S. The guy lives in Alberta Canada if that makes any difference.

Thanks For the Help

Noooooooo dont sell your car to Bertuzzi he definately got some sort of trick up his sleeve lol

[slfmade]

Once its wired and deposited it cannot be reversed..Call the bank to confirm the transfer..You still hold the car keys and the title im guessing, so its not like he is driving off with your car without payment. You should be fine once the wire comes through..is he coming to pick it up or are you shipping it..if your shipping absolutely make sure the wire is done b4 any shipping takes place.. that is were scammers come in..

He's coming this weekend to pick it up. He's wiring the money tomorrow and the bank said it would take 24-48 to clear into my account. I would never give him the key's before the money was in my account. I just wanta make sure he can't reverse it after the fact.....like you can with a credit card!!!

[slfmade]

Noooooooo dont sell your car to Bertuzzi he definately got some sort of trick up his sleeve lol

LOL - It's not Bertuzzi. He's too broke from drinking too much Starbucks to buy the car!!!! LOL

[Razor]

He's coming this weekend to pick it up. He's wiring the money tomorrow and the bank said it would take 24-48 to clear into my account. I would never give him the key's before the money was in my account. I just wanta make sure he can't reverse it after the fact.....like you can with a credit card!!!

No you cant do charge backs with wire's..there is even a fee on the senders part for a wire..and I believe the bank will call you to accept the wire..you should not have a problem..and im glad you dont have to do shipping, thats never fun

[DanB]

LOL - It's not Bertuzzi. He's too broke from drinking too much Starbucks to buy the car!!!! LOL

be careful he could be using an alias

if the fella coming to collect is twitching from too much caffinee then you know its him

[spywizard]

yep, i even do wire transfer to china, it's the only way to do it.. cheap too

[stack_it]

He could just be offering the wire transfer in order to get your bank account info. Who drops that kind of cash on a car before they've seen it in person, heard it run, or driven it. If he said he would send the wire once he had driven it then it wouldn't be so bad but to send it over blind and then pick the car up on the weekend makes him sound like a Nigerian prince. Did he even try to talk you down on the price or just say he'd take it? I'd be very cautious. If you own a viper chances are you have a decent amount of wealth and at that point your identity becomes more valuable to a scammer than the car does.

[Vettester]

Similar thing happened to a buddy of mine in Washington who was selling a trailer ... Turned out to be a scam. Like Stack it said, the person could be trying to get your account information.

Keep your guard up on this one. Hoping though it's the real deal and there are no complications.

[spywizard]

go to your bank.. tell them you have someone that needs to send you a wire transfer...

they will give you a #... give that to him.. when he says it's transfered, contact the bank for confirmation, then transfer the title..

[gearbox]

your good slf- as long as the funds are in your bank. I have a rental property and thats how I make them pay me. but again need to clear it with your bank, I would triple check on your viper. I would like one some day. currently have a corvette

[wmaousley]

Once its wired and deposited it cannot be reversed..Call the bank to confirm the transfer..You still hold the car keys and the title im guessing, so its not like he is driving off with your car without payment. You should be fine once the wire comes through..is he coming to pick it up or are you shipping it..if your shipping absolutely make sure the wire is done b4 any shipping takes place.. that is were scammers come in..

This is only incase of International Wire Transfers, Domestic Transfers can be stopped and reversed by the transfer initiator. DD or wire transfer to me is the safest way to get your money because it cant be faked Bank to Bank.

[slfmade]

The guy did come and take a look at it. He's a custom home builder in Canada and he has a home here in Vegas too. He looked at it last week and has spent the last few days checking with customs on clearance. He'll be doing a wire transfer tomorrow morning from Canada to the U.S. I told him I could not hand over the keys until the money was in my account.

I gave him the bank account info for my secondary account which I only keep about 500 dollars in for overdraft protection. If he is a scammer...he's gonna be pretty dissapointed! LOL

[Brohim]

Did the Viper get you lot's of looks

[gearbox]

Did the Viper get you lot's of looks

of course! Yes even a viper with slfmade driving it...

[DSM4Life]

When you get the wire explain to the customer that you are not giving up the keys until the bank confirms the transfer. Now sit down and right up a details contract. Leave a few lines blank for the guy to write in his name and address. Also note you used a wire transfer and how much you sold the car. Also put in there terms that states he has like 2-3 days to get the insurance/tag/title taken care of.

[slfmade]

Update: He made the wire and the funds are in my account!!!!

[DSM4Life]

I don't care if you see it in your account. Call the bank and explain what you are doing. Make sure its 100% cleared.

[slfmade]

Well, I just went and pulled out 45,000.00 cash and put it in my primary account at a different bank...I guess they thought it was real! Real enough to give me some of their cash!

[slfmade]

Actually, I had BrownGirl do it because I was stuck at work. She took her Pistol with her and I told her to shoot anybody that looked at her wrong. She didn't have to though. It kinda sucks they won't let you take a gun in the bank...I understand the logic behind it, but I would think if someone was gonna mug you it would be walking in/out of the bank. That's where you would need it the most!

[ddp2727]

Actually, I had BrownGirl do it because I was stuck at work. She took her Pistol with her and I told her to shoot anybody that looked at her wrong. She didn't have to though. It kinda sucks they won't let you take a gun in the bank...I understand the logic behind it, but I would think if someone was gonna mug you it would be walking in/out of the bank. That's where you would need it the most!

Take mine into my bank everytime I go. I don't conceal it at all right there on my hip for the world to see in that situation. That's the only place I carry it that way but like you I just see it as a prime place for some fvcked up sh!t to go down, so I want to shave off that extra .3 seconds it would take to flip my shirt up to wield it.

[DSM4Life]

Well, I just went and pulled out 45,000.00 cash and put it in my primary account at a different bank...I guess they thought it was real! Real enough to give me some of their cash!

Doesn't matter that you pulled the cash. If its somehow a scam and it gets reversed the bank will come after you.

[SexySweetheart]

CONGRATS! on selling it!

[SEOINAGE]

Doesn't sounds like a scam but always need to play it safe. Always just done cash personally. Guess he didn't feel comfortable carrying 45k on him, of course I've never had that much cash on me either, and even with less than half that I still felt comfortable since I was armed, and I met the person first before the transaction took place. Congrats on selling the car, have fun plans with the money or being more responsible?

[slfmade]

More responsible!!! I'm putting it towards building a home

[slfmade]

CONGRATS! on selling it!

Thanks S4mS

[SexySweetheart]

yall must super charged about the house!
is bg having dream of decorating running through her head yet *the funnest part is the decorating!* sooo happy for you guys! and appearently much desirved <3

[Razor]

Update: He made the wire and the funds are in my account!!!!

Ok I will pm you my bank information so you cant now wire to me please and thank you

[BrownGirl]

yall must super charged about the house!
is bg having dream of decorating running through her head yet *the funnest part is the decorating!* sooo happy for you guys! and appearently much desirved <3

Thanks S4MS!! Actually Slf's just as involved in the decorating process...For years we've been throwing out ideas....We've pretty much picked out all the furniture...On our days off we end up going to places like Home Depot and going through appliances, flooring and stuff! lol I'm so glad he doesn't make me do all that stuff by myself!

[Flier]

More responsible!!! I'm putting it towards building a home

Dunno man. Home´s are overrated. They blow away by hurricanes and tornadoes, rivers and oceans sweep them away. And home renovations are the biggest cause for divorces and breakups, walking hand in hand at Home Depot is only cute for the first month.

Dude, listen to wisdom. Rent a small apartment, buy a home gym, and stash away $40k towards gear, protein bars, chicken, and BB outfits for the next 10 years. You´re gonna be moody and revved up, so knock up Browngirl before she realize what´s happening.

[DSM4Life]

Dunno man. Home´s are overrated. They blow away by hurricanes and tornadoes, rivers and oceans sweep them away. And home renovations are the biggest cause for divorces and breakups, walking hand in hand at Home Depot is only cute for the first month.

Dude, listen to wisdom. Rent a small apartment, buy a home gym, and stash away $40k towards gear, protein bars, chicken, and BB outfits for the next 10 years. You´re gonna be moody and revved up, so knock up Browngirl before she realize what´s happening.

That's the worse advise i ever read on this forum.

[Razor]

I think he was kidding

[Flier]

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[Flier]

That's the worse advise i ever read on this forum.

AAS will make your penis shrink, but HGH will make it grow.
I advise users to stack them to equalize the effects.

[Razor]

lmao

[Far from massive]

Did not read all the replies because time may be of the essence and what others have said really does not change the facts.

DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER THIS.

ONLY TAKE CASH in a deal like this, banks protect themselves not you or the seller. So even if the guy were to give you a cashiers check and your bank deposited the money in your account, they still have up to 2 years to remove the money back from your account if they for some reason find out the check, money order, cashiers check, etc was bad. Even if you go to his bank and cash it they still can contact your bank and have the funds removed.

This may seem crazy but you are the one handing them the defective or false "instrument" ( check, money order etc) So if this were not how it worked teams of crooks would simply have one guy make out the check to another guy who would cash it then when the bank found out the instrument was fake the guy who deposited it would simply say, oh hell I got burnt selling a car. I did not know it was fake. So its easy to see that the banks need this sort of leverage to protect themselves from this type of scam.

By the way I learned this back when I was heavily involved in auto racing. Back then we used to sell a hundred grand a year in car parts over the web to unknown parties. My freind was selling his race car trailer and the guy sent a 500 dollar money order as a deposit on the trailer. Then on a Thursday saying he would overnight the balance of the money in money orders on Friday ( sound familiar) he was contacted by the party saying he was heading through our state this weekend and really needed to pick up the trailer for a race and if we could not sell it this weekend he would have to purchase one elsewhere. Well my friend got the money orders from a courier ( not by overnight FedEx) on Friday at 5.00 right as the bank closed. Luckily his wife new one of the girls who was pretty high up in the bank and she agreed to meet her and look at the money orders. She said they appeared legit but explained the whole 2 year deal to us and at that point we decided to not sell the trailer. Well when the guy showed up early Saturday morning to pick up the trailer, my buddy and I told the guy to keep heading north and we would mail his money orders back to him...All of a sudden he demanded that we better give him the trailer or at least give him the 500 from the first money order saying he knew we had cashed it and we were not going to screw him out of his money...Well we almost went for it but since he did not look to threatening we told him we did not have the money and would send it Monday along with the money orders.


Well the funny thing is that the balance of the money orders that we got were indeed fake, but here is where it gets funny they were made using the first 500 money order and a color copier and some special paper etc. Why is that so funny? The first money order sent as a deposit for 500 was indeed good and cleared the bank and guess what LOL we never sent the money back to the scam artist.

[FONZY007]

Just wait till it clears

[MickeyKnox]

Dunno man. Home´s are overrated. They blow away by hurricanes and tornadoes, rivers and oceans sweep them away. And home renovations are the biggest cause for divorces and breakups, walking hand in hand at Home Depot is only cute for the first month.

Dude, listen to wisdom. Rent a small apartment, buy a home gym, and stash away $40k towards gear, protein bars, chicken, and BB outfits for the next 10 years. You´re gonna be moody and revved up, so knock up Browngirl before she realize what´s happening.

hahahahahahaha!!!