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    steroids and cognitive function

    does gear affect cognitive function at all? ie make you dumber or smarter?

    when im on gear i always just think about training and diet, but i dont know if it actually effects my iq

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    When you are on gear? Why would you be using AAS @ 20 years old? Are you aware of the ramifications?

    As to your question, no.

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    i would have said no. But after reading your post, it may be true
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    i would have said no. But after reading your post, it may be true
    LMAO

    The Hall Of Shame has had alot of additions lately . . . . . .

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    I think we kick around this question a few times a year. There is a rebuttal answer that casts one vote in the "it dumbs you down" column. But i didn't buy it then, and i'm not buying it now.

    My opinion is that it has no impact on one's intelligence

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    I think this question stems from people thinking about the stereotypical "meathead" steroid user. You know the knuckle dragging retard that just lifts heavy things. Like most stereotypes this doesn't actually have any bearing on real life. I remember my first semester in university I got straight A's then second semester I did my cycle and got 2 A's a B+ and a B. However correlation does not prove causation. Did I do worse because I had test cyp in my veins? No it was because my main priority shifted from studying to working out. It had nothing to do with the gear it was all because I began to allocate my time differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    i would have said no. But after reading your post, it may be true
    forgot to put a period at the end of your sentence einstein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viking88 View Post
    forgot to put a period at the end of your sentence einstein.
    Einstein is name and should be capitalized.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Love the emphasize on grammar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    Einstein is name and should be capitalized.
    Lmao! I love it! He also forgot capatilization at the beginning of the sentance, and an object for the sentance to be grammatically correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBrian View Post
    Love the emphasize on grammar!

    I'm quite fond of the "emphasis" as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pac Man View Post
    I'm quite fond of the "emphasis" as well.
    Epic

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    As a good mate once said to me, " an aggressive loudmouth asshole off steriods will just be a stronger aggressive loudmouth asshole on them. " I have never heard the government or the AMA telling anybody steroids will shrink your brain, just your balls!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    Einstein is name and should be capitalized.
    should read:

    Einstein is "A" name and should be capitalized.....

    except A should be lower case

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    should read:

    Einstein is "A" name and should be capitalized.....

    except A should be lower case
    lmao. U need to run more stuff. Your still intelligent.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    Einstein is name and should be capitalized.
    Don't forget the comma.

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    The cat sat on the mat.

    Today's letter is 'M' for meathead.

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    I lift things up and put them down.... I lift things up and put them down....




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    Hookd in fonix werked 4 me

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    Quote Originally Posted by viking88 View Post
    does gear affect cognitive function at all? ie make you dumber or smarter?

    when im on gear i always just think about training and diet, but i dont know if it actually effects my iq
    If you suffer from low test, bringing your test level into optimal range will dramatically improve cognition. Why, I don´t know. Maybe Testosterone affect the biological/neurological process which controls cognition.
    When on cycle, my thinking/attention is altered, but I doubt my IQ is affected either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    i lift things up and put them down.... I lift things up and put them down....



    lmao!!!!!....fb

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    hahaha. I love that planet fitness commercial, makes me laugh every time!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts
    I lift things up and put them down.... I lift things up and put them down....

    YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-cpojkILO0

    That was hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pac Man View Post
    I'm quite fond of the "emphasis" as well.
    I was being a smartass

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBrian View Post
    Love the emphasize on grammar!
    I was following you BBrian, I laughed out loud in Personal Finance class.



    "Einstein is "A" name and should be capitalized....."

    Proper grammar would allow only three periods at the end of that sentence.

    "Einstein is a name and should be capitalized..."

    Ellipsis, also known as three continuous punctuation marks or periods, is used for many things that include aposiopesis.

    In your specific example, aposiopesis is used to deliberately break off a sentence to put emphasis on the statement.

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    I remember reading something about it destroying nerve cells which over time would cause you to suffer some form of cognitive affect. I'm pretty sure it wasn't that much -you're not going to drop 5+ IQ points over a cycle.

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    What is this, the Lounge?

    When I cycle I always "feel" dumber. I don't think it actually impairs cognitive function, I just think the high doses of androgens make me focus on lifting, eating and fvcking.

    Anyway, apparently androgens improve mice "think" better:


    "Androgen Administration to Aged Male Mice Increases Anti-Anxiety Behavior and Enhances Cognitive Performance"
    (Neuropsychopharmacology (2008) 33, 1049–1061)

    Although androgen secretion is reduced with aging, and may underlie decrements in cognitive and affective performance, the effects and mechanisms of androgens to mediate these behaviors are not well understood. Testosterone (T), the primary male androgen, is aromatized to estrogen (E2), and reduced to dihydrotestosterone (DHT), which is converted to 5α-androstane, 3α, 17β-diol (3α-diol). To ascertain whether actions of the neuroactive metabolite of T, 3α-diol, mediates cognitive and affective behaviors, intact, aged male C57/B6 mice (24 month old) as well as young, intact and gonadectomized (GDX; 12 week old) mice were administered s.c. T, 3α-diol, E2, or sesame oil vehicle (1 mg/kg; n=4–5/group) at weekly intervals and 1 h later mice were tested in the activity box, roto-rod, open field, elevated plus maze, zero maze, mirror maze, dark-light transition, forced swim, or Vogel tasks. Mice were trained in the inhibitory avoidance or conditioned contextual fear and were administered hormones following training and then were tested. After the last test occasion, tissues were collected for evaluation of hormone levels and effects on γ-aminobutyric acid (GABA)-stimulated chloride flux. T, 3α-diol, or E2 increased anti-anxiety and antidepressant behavior of aged, intact mice in the open field, light-dark transition, mirror maze, and forced swim tasks. T or 3α-diol, but not E2, enhanced anti-anxiety behavior in the elevated plus maze, zero maze, and the Vogel task, and increased motor behavior in the activity monitor, latency to fall in the Roto-rod task, and cognitive performance in the hippocampally-mediated, but not the amygdala-mediated, portion of the conditioned fear task and in the inhibitory avoidance task. Anti-anxiety and enhanced cognitive performance was associated with regimen that increased plasma and hippocampal 3α-diol levels and GABA-stimulated chloride flux. Similar patterns were seen among young, adult GDX but not in intact mice. Thus, 3α-diol can enhance affective and cognitive behavior of male mice.

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    Title sounded promising on this one, but wasn't really conclusive:

    Thinking with your gonads: testosterone and cognition
    (Trends in Cognition, Volume 10, Issue 2, February 2006, Pages 77–82)

    Sex hormones play a crucial role during brain development, but do they modulate or maintain cognition throughout life? Despite several million prescriptions annually for testosterone supplementation, we do not really know the answer. Here I review recent evidence that testosterone alters neural activity essential for learning and memory, and plays an important role as a neuroprotective agent in aging. In particular, testosterone deprivation is associated with poor memory in men and repla***ent can enhance memory and spatial cognition. However, there is little evidence that testosterone selectively affects only those cognitive domains where sex differences in performance have been found. There are also gaps in our knowledge surrounding the individual cognitive processes altered by testosterone, their neural basis, and the degree to which testosterone affects cognitive performance in women.

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    Damnit d, we were having an intelligent conversation before you got all technical and stuff.
    Seriously, depending on what I'm on I may feel a little wittier. Things like var with a high likelihood of fatigue make me feel retarded. Probably because I'm just too lazy to think when running that shit.

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