Pct for androphen 275

[Blitz88]

Plan on running 550 mg for 12 weeks. 275 mg Mon and fri. First cycle ever. Any thoughts on pct?

[The Bear 79]

Alright man, you're littering the forums. You don't need to start a new thread to ask the same exact questions every few hours.

[Blitz88]

I apologize I will not ask again. I am just trying to educate myself.

[The Bear 79]

Well there are many stickies here on PCT, do some reading & then come back to THIS thread (don't start a new thread) & post you purposed PCT for critique.............. START HERE.

[Blitz88]

I have been reading for the past couple months on PCT. I have read all stickies. This is my best conclusion.
Liquidex .5 mg eod on cycle.
3 days after last shot I will begin
Tamox 20 mg ed for 6 weeks and stain 20-25 ed for 3 weeks.

[Blitz88]

Thank you

[The Bear 79]

OK Tamoxifen is good but you should only need a 4 week PCT & I would do 2 weeks at 40 mg/ed & then 2 weeks at 20 mg/ed. What is "stain" & what made you choose it?

[Blitz88]

It is (staine) Aromasin from ar-r. I read in a different stickie that you should switch AI's if you are running arimedex during cycle. I read that running Nolvadex and arimedex during pct is counter productive to a certain degree.

[The Bear 79]

OK Arimadex & Aromasin are intended to be used as on cycle AI's, not PCT. Have you looked into Clomid?

[Blitz88]

Ok that is good to know. Yes, I have read about Clomid. I was a little hesitant because I have read that it may damage your eyes. Run Clomid 25 mg ed for 4 weeks?

[hankdiesel]

Ok that is good to know. Yes, I have read about Clomid. I was a little hesitant because I have read that it may damage your eyes.

Never heard that one. Keep it simple and do clomid and nolvadex for 4 weeks starting two weeks after your last shot. I do think that 550mg is a relatively hugh dose for a first cycle. You'll get big gains off much less.

[The Bear 79]

Never heard that one.

Its true, that's why I don't use Clomid.

[Blitz88]

Maybe I will consider lowering my Test dose then. How much Clomid do you recommend? Also, I do not have access to any hcg. Would an OTC hcg supplement from GNC work while on cycle to keep my "boys" working?

[Blitz88]

So what do you use instead of Clomid?

[hankdiesel]

Imo 275mg every 5 days would make for a solid cycle. I'm sure some will disagree. I'm on hrt now but when I did do a pct I did 100mg clomid a day for the first 2 weeks and 50mg for the last 2.

[The Bear 79]

So what do you use instead of Clomid?

I have always used just Nolvadex for PCT.

[Blitz88]

Excellent I will just use Nolvadex. Is it a good idea for arimedex while on cycle?
.5 mg eod?

[DanB]

Its true, that's why I don't use Clomid.

I always thought of this as a relatively rare, dose related side?

Are you saying it could become permenant?

[Blitz88]

Imo 275mg every 5 days would make for a solid cycle. I'm sure some will disagree. I'm on hrt now but when I did do a pct I did 100mg clomid a day for the first 2 weeks and 50mg for the last 2.

I will consider this. The only thing I was thinking with androphen 275 is that it has some short acting esters. I want my blood levels as constant as possible. I dont have access to anything else.

[The Bear 79]

I always thought of this as a relatively rare, dose related side?

Are you saying it could become permenant?

Yes, it is usually only at high doses, & the recorded cases of Clomid related vision problems were all rectified upon stopping. But my eyes were very important to my career in the military when I first started cycling & they are still just as important to my career today, so I don't even "temp fate".

[The Bear 79]

Excellent I will just use Nolvadex. Is it a good idea for arimedex while on cycle?
.5 mg eod?

Yes, the rim is a good idea.

[hankdiesel]

I will consider this. The only thing I was thinking with androphen 275 is that it has some short acting esters. I want my blood levels as constant as possible. I dont have access to anything else.

So what is your proposed pinning schedule?

[hankdiesel]

Nevermind. I see it in your first post. Mon & Fri. That is 4 days. I said every 5. Is it going to make that big of a difference. I say no. You could do a half shot every 2.5 days if you really wanted.

[Blitz88]

Mon and Thurs.
Any thoughts on Arimedex while on cycle?
I don't have access to injectable HCG. Will the sublingual HCG from GNC work?

[Blitz88]

Thank you hankdiesel.

[hankdiesel]

Your original post says Mon and Fri which is actually the same when you stop and think about it. As far as the arimedex goes I take .5mg Mon/Wed/Fri. I wouldn't worry about the hcg.

[Blitz88]

My bad I did write mon and Friday. I meant thurs.. Your right same spread either way.
Ok so final PCT plan will be Nolvadex 40mg ed week 1 and 2 then 20mg week 3 and 4. Arimedex .5 mg mon/wed/fri.
Will this work?

[Blitz88]

Anybody?

[The Bear 79]

I wouldn't worry about the hcg.

Yeah who cares about complete recovery of size & function of their Testicles any way right.......................

[The Bear 79]

Anybody?

Yes that looks fine. But I recommend using the HCG on cycle as well. 500 iu a week starting in week 3. And no, the HCG from the vitamin store wont work, its not HCG, you will need to get the real stuff.

[DGK]

I jusr came off andro 275.. i take tamox 20mg ed for weeks 1-4 . and liquid tore 120mg ed for first 2 weeks and then 60 mg ed for last 2 weeks. And u should wait more then three days b4 starting pct

[Blitz88]

Yes that looks fine. But I recommend using the HCG on cycle as well. 500 iu a week starting in week 3. And no, the HCG from the vitamin store wont work, its not HCG, you will need to get the real stuff.

Thanks man I will give this a shot. Appreciate all the info.

[Blitz88]

I jusr came off andro 275.. i take tamox 20mg ed for weeks 1-4 . and liquid tore 120mg ed for first 2 weeks and then 60 mg ed for last 2 weeks. And u should wait more then three days b4 starting pct

Are you happy with the results on androphen? How long did you run it and how much did run it for?
What is tore? Is that Clomid?

[DGK]

i ran andro my first cycle i had good results, i then ran test 400 and had amzing results. This was my 3rd cycle and i ran andro bc its the winter and i wasnt worried about being huge as where i live we stay bundled up. I plan on doing test 400 again 12 more weeks. I ran a short cycle this time but im still happy with the andro.Check arr for tore its a shortned name

[Blitz88]

i ran andro my first cycle i had good results, i then ran test 400 and had amzing results. This was my 3rd cycle and i ran andro bc its the winter and i wasnt worried about being huge as where i live we stay bundled up. I plan on doing test 400 again 12 more weeks. I ran a short cycle this time but im still happy with the andro.Check arr for tore its a shortned name

Excellent I am looking forward to starting soon. Thanks for the info.

[Blitz88]

When is a good time to start pct after 12 weeks of androphen?

[DanB]

I have been reading for the past couple months on PCT. I have read all stickies. This is my best conclusion.
Liquidex .5 mg eod on cycle.
3 days after last shot I will begin
Tamox 20 mg ed for 6 weeks and stain 20-25 ed for 3 weeks.

No you havent mate because pct start time is one of the first stickys you would come across its basic stuff, start reading because you wont get people just spoon feeding you a cycle you need to know yourself the reasons for things and how they work

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.T0O5MnktmSo

[Blitz88]

No you havent mate because pct start time is one of the first stickys you would come across its basic stuff, start reading because you wont get people just spoon feeding you a cycle you need to know yourself the reasons for things and how they work

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.T0O5MnktmSo

Ok thanks but I still don't see Androphen 275 in the sticky. I know it's a combination of test esters that have different half life's. I am going to shoot for 14 days after last injection and run:
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Tamox 40/40/20/20

[DGK]

Go to the pct section of this forum. ask swifto. he has a thread goinf and knows it all when it comes to pct.. what i told u i take for andro is what he said.

[DanB]

Ok thanks but I still don't see Androphen 275 in the sticky. I know it's a combination of test esters that have different half life's. I am going to shoot for 14 days after last injection and run:
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Tamox 40/40/20/20

Correct but sustanon is in the sticky which is also a very similar blend so same protocol applies