Some tips for the new guy

[C Childs]

I am thinking about runing test for the first time and have looked around a lot and asked a few of my buddies what I should do. I want to take Var and test cyp. After all my research I came up with this:

Wk 1-10 test cyp 350 mg per wk
Wk 7-12 anavar 60mg ED
Wk 3-14 adex .25mg EOD
Start pct 3 days after last dose of Var? using nolvadex and clomid. (not sure about how long to wait after taking Var)
Run the nolva 20/20/10/10/10 and clomid 50/50/25/25.

I'm not sure if I should just stack the Var and test or run it one after the other like above. This is my first cycle and I would like to shread up and put on lean mass. Any comments and insight would be appreciated guys. Thanks!

[j4ever41]

post up your stats and training history

[kamilo1975]

Too young to start ass!

[scorpion62]

Welcome to the board you should put up your stats

Age
Height
Weight
Bf%
Years training

For your first cycle you should only run one compound to see how you respond to it , Why 350mg a week ? , also why are you running nolva for an extra week? How did you work your PCT out? Your PCT would start depending on what compound you are using ,test c would be 18 days after last pin and your oral would be a front load

[adamjames]

welcome, im on my 1st cycle atm, using test propionate alone at 400 mg EW

stick with 1 compound first cycle is your best bet

[C Childs]

Ok thanks everyone
im 21 im 6' 2" 205 lbs
i dont know my exact body fat but I'd say around 10 % (not positive) my abs are visable, but not like crazy out there
I have been lifting for about 5 years kinda on and off but much more serious the last 2 years
I have run h-drol 3 time differing the amounts each time, i cant say which one it was but i was taking 2 caps my first 2 times and then i uped it to 3 the last time (ED) I ran it. Every cycle was only for 30 days and I figured I was ****ing my liver up so much might as well just take test. I took organ shield everytime to ensure I wasnt but I know that its no miricle thats gonna stop it and also postcycled each time as well, mostly with low amounts of clomid.

So my question is if i should stick to one compound and im looking for a more cut look should i just stick to Var? And scorpion62 I was planning on Var being last so that why i said a few days but overall im still kinda seeking the knowlage of everyone to find out what will be best. I know it's all bout how you personally react to a compound but i just wanted to hear around before i just start something ya know =P

[C Childs]

And btw the doses on the H-Drol...each cap was 25 mgs

[The Bear 79]

welcome, im on my 1st cycle atm, using test propionate alone at 400 mg EW

stick with 1 compound first cycle is your best bet

Ignore this inexperienced, unknowledgable bullsh!t OP. Your "best bet" would be to wait until you're 25 & your Endocrine & HPTA are fully developed, after that, there is significantly less risk of doing potentially irreversible damage to undeveloped systems. If you cycle right now, there is a greater likelihood of permanently shutting down your hormone production & / or stunting your growth. Unless of coarse you don't mind limp d!ck & no libido at 21 years old & chronic / severe depression. Your call.

[AD]

Ignore this inexperienced, unknowledgable bullsh!t OP. Your "best bet" would be to wait until you're 25 & your Endocrine & HPTA are fully developed, after that, there is significantly less risk of doing potentially irreversible damage to undeveloped systems. If you cycle right now, there is a greater likelihood of permanently shutting down your hormone production & / or stunting your growth. Unless of coarse you don't mind limp d!ck & no libido at 21 years old & chronic / severe depression. Your call.

Bear is right. Don't do it just bcos others say they are doing it too.

[songdog]

welcome, im on my 1st cycle atm, using test propionate alone at 400 mg EW

stick with 1 compound first cycle is your best bet

The reason we ask for stats is beacuse we like to see if the op is old enough and fits in the guidelines.

[j4ever41]

i have to agree with everyone else,you are young,it would be best for you to wait,you say you have been lifting seriously for 2 years,but honestly 2 years is nothing,put in 4-5 more years before you start aas,and by the way stop taking the prohormones,at your age a good meal plan and training routine designed to meet your goals is all you need,i bet you would be suprised at the progress you can make naturally over the next 4-5 years, just be consistent,good luck to ya

[adamjames]

The reason we ask for stats is beacuse we like to see if the op is old enough and fits in the guidelines.

thats fine im just writing what im personally doing for my first cycle to shy him away from using 2 compounds

[adamjames]

Ignore this inexperienced, unknowledgable bullsh!t OP. Your "best bet" would be to wait until you're 25 & your Endocrine & HPTA are fully developed, after that, there is significantly less risk of doing potentially irreversible damage to undeveloped systems. If you cycle right now, there is a greater likelihood of permanently shutting down your hormone production & / or stunting your growth. Unless of coarse you don't mind limp d!ck & no libido at 21 years old & chronic / severe depression. Your call.

keep your hair on bear

ow sorry i forgot you are in the 1 percent