Turnabol & Eq Stack for cardio...

[senior_xj]

-Ok im gonna throw this cycle out there & see what replys pops up. This is an athletic/cardio cycle so here goes my cycle: 50mg of Turnabol daily, & 300mgs of Eq weekly for 14 weeks to start. For test, i choose to run test supplements such as DAA, Erase, Trib, & Long Jack, (i already have a stash of them so it saves me money). The theory here is to get the cardio from the T-bols, get the red blood cell count higher with the Eq while keeping any chance of sides to slim & none.

-Quick background, started in the gym at age 20, by age 25 i switched over to the dark side, & over the next few years i ran great cycles with great results. Im 35 now & cardio is my main focus & my imortal enemy. Naturally i can gain muscle back fast due to good muscle memory, BUT with cardio, its use it or loose it.

Any athletes & cardio freaks please chime in!!!

[JDBeretta]

I think you'll find that if you're using a compound that shuts you down like Eq does, te only thing that will keep you going (as far as test goes) is test.

I don't know too much about cardio enhancing cycles, but I'm on a cycle of test and Eq right now and my cardio is TERRIBLE. Like I had no idea it was going to be this bad.

But anyways, I look forward to hearing the replays in this thread.

[senior_xj]

I think you'll find that if you're using a compound that shuts you down like Eq does, te only thing that will keep you going (as far as test goes) is test.

I don't know too much about cardio enhancing cycles, but I'm on a cycle of test and Eq right now and my cardio is TERRIBLE. Like I had no idea it was going to be this bad.

But anyways, I look forward to hearing the replays in this thread.

Didnt think Eq would shut me down as bad as u say, even at a dose of 300mgs weekly???

[JDBeretta]

I don't know about it shutting you down 'bad' but it is a modification of testosterone...

I know it does shut you down but if you were to compare it to others I've read up on (Tren, for example), it might not seem as bad.

Nonetheless, any AAS that 'shuts you down' is going to take testosterone to counteract it. Ive taken Tribulus and other supplements for boosting test and basically came to the conclusion that they were crap. Anything that really works (in terms of hormones) will not be sold without a prescription or a black market source...

This is, of course, my opinion. I'm not a doctor or a biochemical engineer.

[senior_xj]

So i guess the safe bet here is to run test with the eq & would look somethin like this, 300mg eq/400mg test-e weekly for 14 weeks & id have to drop the t-bols due to funds.

[V-ROID]

I did 4 weeks of Hdrol, which is supposed to be very similar to Tbol... and my endurance went through the roof while at the same time I recovered much faster. Also ran Test E 250/wk. I'm over 40 and I see Tbol/Test becoming a yearly thing for me.

[DanB]

Low testerone can lower rbc count so does that not defeat the purpose of your cycle?

And yes eq and tbol will supress your endogenous testosterone levels

[DanB]

I don't know about it shutting you down 'bad' but it is a modification of testosterone...

I know it does shut you down but if you were to compare it to others I've read up on (Tren, for example), it might not seem as bad.

Nonetheless, any AAS that 'shuts you down' is going to take testosterone to counteract it. Ive taken Tribulus and other supplements for boosting test and basically came to the conclusion that they were crap. Anything that really works (in terms of hormones) will not be sold without a prescription or a black market source...

This is, of course, my opinion. I'm not a doctor or a biochemical engineer.

Well I'm glad you dont believe the marketing b.s.

Most people believe everything they read on the leaflet in GNC or wherever

[senior_xj]

Well I'm glad you dont believe the marketing b.s.

Most people believe everything they read on the leaflet in GNC or wherever

Believe it or not, there are some supps out there that do work in certian ways. I used to have low-t & the docs were giving me the run around on the treatment so i said screw it & did my own except i went overboard & my next test count was 4,011 from shooting just 500mgs a week!!!! Knowing that wasnt the smart thing to do for long term, i stopped & waited to see how low my natural test would plane out, & 6 months later it was 127. Thats when i put some of these natural test boosters to the test & stacked DAA, Trib, & a product called Erase, & it got my test to 311 which put me back in normal range. So for me, they do work, but to an extent. Trust me i know the difference between herbals & the real deal as ur talking to someone who once ran a cycle pinning 1 amp of sust EVERY DAY!! LOL!!

(oh & i NEVER shop at gnc as i can get anything on there shelves for half there cost!!)

[V-ROID]

I am about to add DAA to my supps along with stinging nettle. Hope to get a little boost but not counting on it... I don't think it was the Trib that raised your Test, and isn't Erase some kind of OTC estrogen blocker? I am hoping your results were from the DAA!!!

[Turkish Juicer]

What if your natty test came up 311 simply due to having further recovery of your HTPA on its own over this period of time?

[V-ROID]

What if your natty test came up 311 simply due to having further recovery of your HTPA on its own over this period of time?

Then lucky for the supplement companies cause that would hook anyone!

[Turkish Juicer]

Just sayin'...