Hello everyone,
Since I am new to this forum I want to start out by introducing myself. I am 18 years old, started lifting 2 years ago in order to get bigger. I am about 6 feet tall (1,85m). At that time I was weighing 110 pounds. Today I am up to about 160 pounds. I have always been slim, rather skinny, my BF is about 10%.
Last year I went ti a new school. My education mainly involves physics and math, therefore I wanted to get bigger to avoid predjuces about being a nerd.
Well, during 2nd year I encouraged one of my new classmates to start lifting weights...
After 2 months he didn't see much of a differnce, but I told him to have patience. He didn't have any, so he bought a test booster. During the month he took it he gained a few pounds, but it wasn't what he had hoped for.
Reading the title I guess you all know what this lead to, right? His first cycle.
He did not tell me hes was doing it. One day I asked him if he had ever thought about doing a cycle, and he told me he was going to start one the next day. I was stunned to say the least. He had been working out for 3 months, and he had only gained a few pounds.
His cycle consisted of test and deca. He did not know if it was fast ot slow acting. He did not know anything about PCT. He did what his dealer told him, and myself knowing a bit about the price stuff is sold for, he paid well over twice the amount it normally would have cost.
Allright, I will now show you his cycle, afterwards I will explain the thoughtprocess behind it.
Btw, the dose he took was split up into two injections per week. Test monday and thursday, deca tuesday and friday.
1-4: 375 mg test and deca ew
5-6: 500 mg test and deca ew
7-8: 750 mg test and deca ew
I guess the numbers tell it all.
He started of on what he was calling a "low" dose. He wanted to increase the dose as he got further into his cycle, wanting to have more drastic gains towards the end.
Now it get's pretty f'd up: He sometimes got his shot inside a bathroom at school. I think you can guess my reaction. Shocked. Angry, and so on.
Funny, disturbing, but mostly concerning fact: He did not disinfect the injectionsite or the needle he was using. Neither did the one who injected him check if he was going to inject into a blood vessle ( I can't remember what this is called in English, but I think you know what I am talking about).
He did a lot of f'd up stuff whit the inections. He told me when one of his friends was injecting him, the injector started laughing for some, unknown, reason. He thereby bent the needle, which was inside my friend's leg. Thereby not being able to inject, he just bend the needle back (still inside his leg). I was very concerned at this time.
At this point of my story most readers are probably thinking I'm a bad friend, not having stopped him. Well, I did all I could in order to do so. I warned him, told him his dosages where way too high, told him to wait until he got older and had achived something naturally. But of course he wouldn't listen.
His "diet" mostly consisted of rough bred, carrots and cewcumber. Oh yeah, and a lot of protein shakes. Everytime we were having lunch at school I sat there eating my chicken and rice/ pasta. I told him to eat something proper, but he said he was getting enough protein from his shakes, so it was allright. Yeah right...
He lives in another city than me, so we don't work out together. I brought him to my gym once, just to see how he trained. His form was terrible. My best friend's big brother, who has been working out for a long time and is quite a beast, wanted to rip his head of.
His trainingsplit was like this:
Monday: Chest, back, shoulders, triceps
Tuesday: biceps, traps, legs (not including calves)
Repeat this two times, sunday off.
A great split as you can see.
He didn't get much sleep either I guess, he often showed up at school looking tired, saying he first fell asleep at 3 a.m.
To wind this up: He did, and still doesn't, control the three main aspects of bodybuilding. Still he took steroids. His plan was determined to go one way.
Here comes the interesting part: What did he achieve by doing this cycle? A lot. He gained about 20 pounds of fat and water, his head swoll up to unimaginable size. ( I picked on him a lot because of this )
After the cycle he lost all the fluids, and of course kept the fat. The main thing he gained in my opinion is more of a loss. I bet he f'd up his hormone system for good, but since I am not a medical professional, I can say nothing for sure. He got severe acne on his back and chest, and had to take medication for it.
His PCT: First of all he had no idea of how much to take. He just shot some random doses. By the way, he did this with a regular needle, same model he used for his test and deca injections.
His mood seems to be a lot worse than before he started the cycle. It has been roughly two months since he ended his PCT. He is quite fat, his BF being arround 20%. Still, I am quite certain some gyno has sprouted up.
Allright, he most likely ruined his body, and all he gained from it was 10 pounds of fat.
Now, two months after he has ended his cycle he is going to take some winny. As far as I understand this compound, winny drains your body of all fluids, making your muscles look "hard". So this is probably something the big guys would take before summer in order to look nice on the beach. I guess this is what he hopes to achieve. Still, I don't think this will do any good if you don't have huge muscles, which he of course doesn't.
Now, what I wish to achieve by posting all this: How do I convince my friend not to take more steroids? (Funny thing, he hasn't told me is is going to do winny, he only tol my best friend, who on the other hand tells me everything, so of course I would find out...)
Also, what will winny do for someone who does not posses big muscles, who does not have a strict diet, and is quite fat? Also, looking back at the ammounts he took during his first cycle, he probably will be taking way too much this time, too. Is this going to fudge his intestants up?
As a final note I want to address all guys arround my age, looking to get big. Please, do not do roids. They will do you more harm than good. Please do not ruin your life. Be patient. If you are dedicated to the sport and do your best, you will make awesome gains naturally.
This has been a long read, much longer than I expected it to be. I hope the young guys in here learned something.
Have a great day everybody,
Bets regards
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Originally Posted by PRyan
